[Farmall] [Bulk (7.05) ] Re: Super C Problem

[Ben Wagner]

In "normal" operation of a tractor, how often should the air cleaner steel
wool material be replaced?  What justifies replacement versus a good
cleaning?

I'm thinking of "normal" as the average work tractor usage, since a restored
show tractor will most likely never be dusty/dirty enough to warrant
cleaning.  You mentioned that IH considered the steel wool a permanent part,
and in my owner's manual (for a c.1952 Super A) IH only recommends flushing
the air cleaner with kerosine every 60 hours.  I'm sure that things change
in 60 years, time may have taken its toll and the steel wool may need to be
replaced.

I did not replace my steel wool in the air filter of either of my two
tractors.  I did blow it out with very light pressure, from the carb side,
and wiped out the oil cup.  I didn't know the air filter came apart!

As a side note, I come from small engine paper air filters (depending on the
filter you have to replace them often) and foam pre-filters.  These filters
commonly fail, with the lack of adequate maintenance and replacement,
causing major engine issues and injuries.  I was surprised to find that old
tractors didn't use such disposable means; they chose more permanent
filters!  Perhaps that's part of why the engines last longer.

Ben Wagner

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bill Bruer <bill_bru at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Go to https://webparts.pvassociates.net/cnh/webparts/main.php and enter
> "Super C " for the model search.  When that comes up in the left panel
> click
> on the plus sign to expand the group list.  Within the "Chassis" group
> (click on the plus sign) you will see 2 entries for air cleaner.  Mine is
> the United Specialties type.  Click on that entry to display the exploded
> drawing in the right side panel and the parts list at the bottom.  There is
> a retainer in the bottom of the air cleaner body.  You can pry that one out
> and the steel wool is above that.  Evidently, IH considered those as
> permanent parts of the air cleaner body.  From comments here by others in
> the past I think the Donaldson air cleaner had a similar setup.  That's how
> I knew to look for it.  Sorry I can't recall more detail but I've only done
> it once and that was a while back.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff & Ginny Pomije" <vjpomije at bevcomm.net>
> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] [Bulk (7.05) ] Re: Super C Problem
>
>
> I took the oil pan off of the air intake.  I see the screen at the
> bottom.  I do not see any way of removing it.  How can I get to the
> 'steel wool'?
>
> Jeff
>
> On 8/25/2011 11:07 AM, Bill Bruer wrote:
> > Yes, it is actual steel wool, fairly coarse as Mike said.  The local TSC
> > store carries it in the same area as the other tractor tune-up parts,
> > already shaped into a "donut".  I don't remember if what they have is
> > stainless.  What was in mine was certainly not - it was fairly rusted
> > though
> > I wouldn't have thought it was bad enough to cause problems.  Nor was it
> > obviously dirty.  In any case, it is a cheap and easy piece of
> maintenance
> > that helps to keep a clean&  unrestricted airflow through the carb.
> > Remember that the airflow is as necessary to the fuel feed as for
> > combustion.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff&  Ginny Pomije"<vjpomije at bevcomm.net>
> > To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Farmall] [Bulk (7.05) ] Re: Super C Problem
> >
> >
> > I have not checked the air cleaner yet.  Is it actual steel wool used as
> > the strainer?
> >
> > On 8/25/2011 8:52 AM, Bill Bruer wrote:
> >> I have a Farmall 200, successor to the Super C, and really the same
> >> tractor.
> >> It ran well in general but would hesitate on acceleration and sometimes
> >> miss
> >> a bit at any speed for no apparent reason.  I got good fuel flow from
> the
> >> tank into the sediment bowl and at the carb.  I decided to replace the
> >> screen in the sediment bowl any way, then had trouble getting it to seal
> >> up
> >> good so just replaced the entire sediment bowl assembly.
> >>
> >> At the same time I checked the air cleaner assembly.  The central tube
> >> was
> >> clear and I had the proper level of oil in the cup.  I needed to replace
> >> the
> >> hose between the air cleaner housing and the carb so I removed the
> entire
> >> air assembly from the tractor to check the steel wool strainers inside.
> >> The
> >> strainers didn't appear to be in bad shape but I went ahead and replaced
> >> them while I had it all off.
> >>
> >> I don't know which of these "fixes" did the trick but the tractor runs
> >> very
> >> well now with no stumbling or missing under any circumstances.  Only
> took
> >> 2
> >> trips to TSC and about $20.
> >>
> >> Bill Bruer
> >> Murfreesboro, TN
> >> bill_bru at bellsouth.net
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Jeff&    Ginny Pomije
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:53 PM
> >>> To: farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] [Bulk (6.89) ] Re: [Bulk (7.09) ] Re: [Bulk
> >>> (7.09) ] Re: Super C Problem
> >>>
> >>> A few weeks ago I posted a question about my Super C sputtering.  I
> have
> >>> tried a number of things but am still having a problem.  Today I turned
> >>> off the fuel from the fuel tank to the sediment bowl.  I removed it and
> >>> cleaned it out.  I have a question.  When I turn the fuel flow back on,
> >>> should the fuel flow freely into the sediment bowl or drip slowly?
>  Mine
> >>> is dripping slowly.  I am wondering if it is blocked.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Pomije
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