[AT] Lost list mail

[Dean VP]

Bill,

Very good message. But if I could piggy back on this just a little. The email servers and providers
are doing allot more spam and virus checking than they used to and as you have mentioned that may
not be working in our favor .... all the time. Some list providers are also adding an additional
level of spam and virus checking over and above what the email and ISP suppliers are doing. That too
can add a level of filtering that may work against us in that our email address may end up on one of
their bad guy lists or if the software has detected too many spam messages from a certain ISP and
start blocking all messages from that ISP. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that checking out
our own email clients and ISP's is a very good thing to do but the emails may also be being blocked
elsewhere where we can't get to them.  As I recall there is a way to get your email address off of a
bad guy list but I don't remember now how to do that. You are considerably more current on this
stuff so hopefully you will know and offer suggestions. 

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA

Change occurs "when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change!"


-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Bruer
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 6:43 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: [AT] Lost list mail

Charlie & others who experience lost list messages:

If you read your email using an email client on your local machine (Outlook, 
Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Thunderbird, etc) you are probably expecting 
*all* the mail that comes to your mailbox on the server to be delivered to 
your client when you connect to the server.  This was the standard for most 
of the history of email.

Nowadays, however, many of the Internet/email service providers are giving 
us extra mail "services" that are managed *at the mailbox*.  Such services 
have default settings that your client won't even know exist, much less be 
able to manage.  One of the major services is spam filtering.  There are 
some others.  You may have to log onto the email service via their web page 
in order to see the services and configure the settings that now govern 
which mail is actually sent to your email client.

I stumbled on this several months ago.  I've had the same email account for 
a long time and always managed all my email on my desktop computer.  I've 
received the nice messages telling about the expanded services but ignored 
them because I didn't need the services.  One day I decided to log into my 
email account via the web page just to make sure I could if I needed to.  I 
found a large number of "lost" emails sitting in the spam folder, including 
some from the ATIS list.  I didn't even know I had a spam folder on the 
server.  Why were some regarded as spam while most weren't?  I don't know, 
but none of those messages were ever going to be sent to my computer.  I had 
to override the default settings to stop anything from going to the spam 
folder or being stopped by any other filtering.

I don't like others deciding what I don't need to see.  You might want to 
check & make sure you aren't being taken care of in this way.

Bill Bruer
Murfreesboro, TN
bill_bru at bellsouth.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlie V" <1cdevill at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] WooHoo


I have given up on attempting to post new threads to this list.  Each
time I do, the post is received by A.T.I.S., but does not appear here
on the list.  I have managed to slip a couple in as "replies".
Eventually I learned that it is not worth the effort and will remain
quiet even when there is no list traffic..

Charlie V. in WNY


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