[AT] 8020 Antique

Gene Dotson gdotsly at watchtv.net
Mon Nov 1 18:47:12 PDT 2010


    Dean;

    I certainly will not debate you over 1 year's time in in my 
recollections from 50 years ago. Whether it was 1958 or 1959 adds nothing to 
what I wished to communicate. I was not around this tractor from 1960 to 
1964 while I was in the Air Force. In 1967 I became friends with Jim and 
visited the farm often and operated the tractor, even putting the 35 Foot 
Krause disc into a fence during a turn. They also had a Versatile of about 
the same power, I believe a 900?

    I did find the third post containing the same message rather tiring.

                            Gene

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] 8020 Antique


> Gene,
>
> In an attempt to avoid further misstatements, the JD 8010 has been 
> reported to have been first announced in September of 1959 in
> Marshalltown, IA just prior to the rest of 10 series of New Generation JD 
> tractors announced later in 1960 (2010-5010). It is
> reported that all but one were recalled by JD to fix some 
> transmission/clutch problems and then re-model numbered/re-serial numbered
> as 8020's during the 1961-1964 period. According to tractordata.com the 
> lone remaining 8010 is now in Walter Keller's collection in
> Wisconsin. I can verify that a 8010 is in Keller's collection based on a 
> picture I took in 2006 during a tour given by Walter
> Keller. See 8010 Picture:
>
> http://public.fotki.com/deanvp/tractor_shows/2006/gog_2006/keller_collection/dcp_3057.html
>
>
> Amazingly, of the 100 8010's built close to 75 8020's have survived to 
> this day. This 8020 at this auction may be the 74or 75th
> found. The original plow that was offered with the 8010/8020 was a fully 
> integral 8 bottom moldboard plow which was obviously very
> unwieldy. Several of these Category IV three point plows have survived as 
> well.  JD had some trouble selling these $30,000 plus,
> 26,000 lb plus tractors and many ended up being rented/leased out by JD 
> and also being used as Industrial tractors. 150 HP at the
> drawbar. A tractor quite a bit ahead of its time but was a forewarning of 
> tractors to come.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> Change occurs "when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the 
> pain of change!"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Gene Dotson
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:06 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] 8020 Antique
>
>    There are a few misstatements in this story. The 8020 was a follow on 
> to
> the 8010 which was first produced in 1957 or 1958. I was privileged to see
> the first 8010 tractor in Ohio at 1958 Case Farm-O-Rama near Richwood, 
> Ohio.
> The Walton-Case families were big farmers there and had close working
> relationship with John Deere Company and hosted this show for several 
> years.
> Russell Case bought the 8010 and used it on the Walton-Case farms for
> several years. This tractor originally had a fully mounted 7 bottom
> moldboard plow that lifted completely off the ground when raised from the
> furrow. Russell's wife, Meriam, drove the tractor regularly and when 
> turning
> at the end of the field, the plow extended quite a distance behind the
> tractor and swung directly behind the tractor. Meriam was known to 
> misjudge
> the length behind her and destroyed a few telephone and electric poles.
> Fences were not a problem as the plow raised high enough to clear the
> fences. The 7 bottom mounted plow was  traded for a 6 bottom semi mounted
> plow for the second year.
>
>    My good friend, Jim Gillfillian worked on the Walton-Case farm for
> several years. I have driven this tractor several times and ridden with 
> Jim
> even more times. The tractor was upgraded to 8020 specs some time in the
> early 60's by John Deere. I don't know if the Walton family still has the
> tractor. They reduced their farming operation considerably in the early
> 70's. This would certainly be a valuable tractor today.
>
>                        Gene
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:32 AM
> Subject: [AT] 8020 Antique
>
>
>> Ok, which one of you atis guys came up here to Sask. and paid $90,000 for
>> this JD 8020 4WD?
>> http://www.mackauctioncompany.com/10-oct2.html
>>
>> If I'd known it was going to sell that cheap I'd have gone to the sale.
>> :-)
>>
>> By WILLIAM DEKAY, Saskatoon Newsroom
>> October 14, 2010
>> Bidding was intense on the ground and via the internet Oct. 2 for a rare
>> four-wheel drive John Deere 8020 tractor.
>>
>> In the end, an anonymous buyer bought the tractor for $90,000.
>>
>> The tractor is one of 74 out of only 100 manufactured. This particular
>> tractor has serial number 14 and created a stir in the agricultural world
>> because until now, it was not known what had become of it.
>>
>> Initially, auctioneer Norm Mack questioned whether he would handle the
>> sale when he went to inspect the farm machinery of Edmund Pranke.
>>
>> "His equipment was nothing special, but he took great pride in what he
>> had," says Mack.
>>
>> Then he saw the 8020 and knew it was something different.
>>
>> "We knew we had found a diamond in the rough. This was a special 
>> tractor,"
>> he says.
>>
>> On a warm harvest day Oct. 2 the sale attracted almost 300 bidders and as
>> many spectators, many travelling from the U.S.
>>
>> "The night before, when we pulled in, there were cars already there. 
>> Every
>> Midwest state that farms was already there," said Mack.
>>
>> "Going over this tractor, they were almost in awe that this tractor would
>> be in Saskatchewan. A lot of people travelled hours, even days just to 
>> see
>> this tractor with no intention of buying or even bidding, but just to 
>> come
>> and see."
>>
>> John Deere's 8020 was built between 1961 and 1963 with a price tag of
>> $32,000.
>>
>> "It was a tremendous amount of money in the early '60s. Therefore demand
>> was low," said Mack.
>>
>> It was the first four-wheel drive articulated tractor produced by a major
>> manufacturer. Mack says all future four-wheel drive tractors were based 
>> on
>> the 8020, even the new ones today.
>>
>> "It was ahead of its time," he said. The 8020 also boasted a Detroit
>> diesel engine commonly called a Screaming Jimmy. "You could hear them
>> coming a mile away," said Mack.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
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