[AT] 8020 Antique

Tue Nov 2 04:52:37 PDT 2010

Here in OK, we did not see these big tractors until the 70's.
Cecil in OK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Dotson" <gdotsly at watchtv.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] 8020 Antique


>    Dean;
>
>    I certainly will not debate you over 1 year's time in in my
> recollections from 50 years ago. Whether it was 1958 or 1959 adds nothing 
> to
> what I wished to communicate. I was not around this tractor from 1960 to
> 1964 while I was in the Air Force. In 1967 I became friends with Jim and
> visited the farm often and operated the tractor, even putting the 35 Foot
> Krause disc into a fence during a turn. They also had a Versatile of about
> the same power, I believe a 900?
>
>    I did find the third post containing the same message rather tiring.
>
>                            Gene
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] 8020 Antique
>
>
>> Gene,
>>
>> In an attempt to avoid further misstatements, the JD 8010 has been
>> reported to have been first announced in September of 1959 in
>> Marshalltown, IA just prior to the rest of 10 series of New Generation JD
>> tractors announced later in 1960 (2010-5010). It is
>> reported that all but one were recalled by JD to fix some
>> transmission/clutch problems and then re-model numbered/re-serial 
>> numbered
>> as 8020's during the 1961-1964 period. According to tractordata.com the
>> lone remaining 8010 is now in Walter Keller's collection in
>> Wisconsin. I can verify that a 8010 is in Keller's collection based on a
>> picture I took in 2006 during a tour given by Walter
>> Keller. See 8010 Picture:
>>
>> http://public.fotki.com/deanvp/tractor_shows/2006/gog_2006/keller_collection/dcp_3057.html
>>
>>
>> Amazingly, of the 100 8010's built close to 75 8020's have survived to
>> this day. This 8020 at this auction may be the 74or 75th
>> found. The original plow that was offered with the 8010/8020 was a fully
>> integral 8 bottom moldboard plow which was obviously very
>> unwieldy. Several of these Category IV three point plows have survived as
>> well.  JD had some trouble selling these $30,000 plus,
>> 26,000 lb plus tractors and many ended up being rented/leased out by JD
>> and also being used as Industrial tractors. 150 HP at the
>> drawbar. A tractor quite a bit ahead of its time but was a forewarning of
>> tractors to come.
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA
>>
>> Change occurs "when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the
>> pain of change!"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Gene Dotson
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:06 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] 8020 Antique
>>
>>    There are a few misstatements in this story. The 8020 was a follow on
>> to
>> the 8010 which was first produced in 1957 or 1958. I was privileged to 
>> see
>> the first 8010 tractor in Ohio at 1958 Case Farm-O-Rama near Richwood,
>> Ohio.
>> The Walton-Case families were big farmers there and had close working
>> relationship with John Deere Company and hosted this show for several
>> years.
>> Russell Case bought the 8010 and used it on the Walton-Case farms for
>> several years. This tractor originally had a fully mounted 7 bottom
>> moldboard plow that lifted completely off the ground when raised from the
>> furrow. Russell's wife, Meriam, drove the tractor regularly and when
>> turning
>> at the end of the field, the plow extended quite a distance behind the
>> tractor and swung directly behind the tractor. Meriam was known to
>> misjudge
>> the length behind her and destroyed a few telephone and electric poles.
>> Fences were not a problem as the plow raised high enough to clear the
>> fences. The 7 bottom mounted plow was  traded for a 6 bottom semi mounted
>> plow for the second year.
>>
>>    My good friend, Jim Gillfillian worked on the Walton-Case farm for
>> several years. I have driven this tractor several times and ridden with
>> Jim
>> even more times. The tractor was upgraded to 8020 specs some time in the
>> early 60's by John Deere. I don't know if the Walton family still has the
>> tractor. They reduced their farming operation considerably in the early
>> 70's. This would certainly be a valuable tractor today.
>>
>>                        Gene
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:32 AM
>> Subject: [AT] 8020 Antique
>>
>>
>>> Ok, which one of you atis guys came up here to Sask. and paid $90,000 
>>> for
>>> this JD 8020 4WD?
>>> http://www.mackauctioncompany.com/10-oct2.html
>>>
>>> If I'd known it was going to sell that cheap I'd have gone to the sale.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> By WILLIAM DEKAY, Saskatoon Newsroom
>>> October 14, 2010
>>> Bidding was intense on the ground and via the internet Oct. 2 for a rare
>>> four-wheel drive John Deere 8020 tractor.
>>>
>>> In the end, an anonymous buyer bought the tractor for $90,000.
>>>
>>> The tractor is one of 74 out of only 100 manufactured. This particular
>>> tractor has serial number 14 and created a stir in the agricultural 
>>> world
>>> because until now, it was not known what had become of it.
>>>
>>> Initially, auctioneer Norm Mack questioned whether he would handle the
>>> sale when he went to inspect the farm machinery of Edmund Pranke.
>>>
>>> "His equipment was nothing special, but he took great pride in what he
>>> had," says Mack.
>>>
>>> Then he saw the 8020 and knew it was something different.
>>>
>>> "We knew we had found a diamond in the rough. This was a special
>>> tractor,"
>>> he says.
>>>
>>> On a warm harvest day Oct. 2 the sale attracted almost 300 bidders and 
>>> as
>>> many spectators, many travelling from the U.S.
>>>
>>> "The night before, when we pulled in, there were cars already there.
>>> Every
>>> Midwest state that farms was already there," said Mack.
>>>
>>> "Going over this tractor, they were almost in awe that this tractor 
>>> would
>>> be in Saskatchewan. A lot of people travelled hours, even days just to
>>> see
>>> this tractor with no intention of buying or even bidding, but just to
>>> come
>>> and see."
>>>
>>> John Deere's 8020 was built between 1961 and 1963 with a price tag of
>>> $32,000.
>>>
>>> "It was a tremendous amount of money in the early '60s. Therefore demand
>>> was low," said Mack.
>>>
>>> It was the first four-wheel drive articulated tractor produced by a 
>>> major
>>> manufacturer. Mack says all future four-wheel drive tractors were based
>>> on
>>> the 8020, even the new ones today.
>>>
>>> "It was ahead of its time," he said. The 8020 also boasted a Detroit
>>> diesel engine commonly called a Screaming Jimmy. "You could hear them
>>> coming a mile away," said Mack.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
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