[AT] Off topic but tractor related
David Rotigel
rotigel at me.com
Thu Jul 8 15:10:38 PDT 2010
OMG, I had all but forgotten about the soil bank. Talk about a rural
WELFARE program!
Dave
On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Hi Al, Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant? They
> used to
> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but
> when the
> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and
> then later
> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went
> away. I
> don't know when I last saw field peas. Is there another name for
> them?
>
> Charlie
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>
>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>
>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck
>>> thermometer
>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph. I was stopped with the
>>> engine
>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111. I
>>> realize
>>> that
>>> was engine heat but still. Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15
>>> degrees
>>> but
>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>
>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover
>>> and I
>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter
>>> greens
>>> cooked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>
>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my
>>>> winter
>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden. I like the greens and in
>>>> addition I
>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>
>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest
>>>> but with
>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today. My unofficial
>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>
>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out. She went to make
>>>> sure the
>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way". Hot, humid
>>>> and by
>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> NW NC
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>> Thanks David. I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or
>>>>> mustard
>>>>> so
>>>>> I'll probably pass on those. Of course I could plant them just
>>>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>> heck of it. I am tempted to try some fall potatoes. I'll look
>>>>> for
>>>>> one
>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try. I don't have any certified
>>>>> potato
>>>>> sets
>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them
>>>>> with. I
>>>>> planted
>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.
>>>>> The tops
>>>>> were
>>>>> big but limp. They wouldn't stand up like they should. The
>>>>> onions
>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger
>>>>> than a
>>>>> golf
>>>>> ball. Then the strangest thing happened. I noticed the tops were
>>>>> dying
>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them. The next day I went
>>>>> out
>>>>> and
>>>>> almost all the tops were gone, completely gone. I dug up the
>>>>> onions
>>>>> I
>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of
>>>>> the rest
>>>>> of
>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>> I would say critters got them but the row wasn't disturbed and
>>>>> there
>>>>> were
>>>>> no mole trails near the row. I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash. I don't really have a
>>>>> good spot
>>>>> for a
>>>>> garden here at the house. Plenty of land but too many trees and
>>>>> it's
>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here. The farm is too far away for me to
>>>>> really
>>>>> tend
>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to
>>>>> hone my
>>>>> skills.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than
>>>>> regular
>>>>> artichokes)? It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber
>>>>> root
>>>>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>> edible. It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows
>>>>> about
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't
>>>>> get
>>>>> them
>>>>> in.
>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some
>>>>> onion
>>>>> sets
>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter
>>>>>> squash),
>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other
>>>>>> greens
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> mustard. Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room
>>>>>> why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of
>>>>>>> coastal NC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year. It's really an
>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth. I haven't grown a garden
>>>>>>> beyond a
>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok. My potatoes were a
>>>>>>> disappointment
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring. The potatoes I got
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill. They have been dug now as have my
>>>>>>> onions that
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late
>>>>>>> summer
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop? I've got lots of tomatoes growing
>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely. I've got squash and sweet
>>>>>>> potatoes
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they
>>>>>>> would do.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>> are starting to flower now. But I want to use the potato and
>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop. Preferably something that cans
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions? I considered trying another potato crop. I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference
>>>>>>> online to
>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>> potato crops. I'm thinking some cucumbers would work. When
>>>>>>> I was a
>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year. Who has an idea? It doesn't
>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October. I'm on high sandy loam
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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