[AT] Off topic but tractor related

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Jul 8 14:34:33 PDT 2010 

Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They used to 
grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but when the 
Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and then later 
when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went away.  I 
don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for them?

Charlie

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From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
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> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>
> Al
>
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> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
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>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck thermometer
>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the engine
>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I realize 
>> that
>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15 degrees
>> but
>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>
>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover and I
>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter 
>> greens
>> cooked.
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
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>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my winter
>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in addition I
>>> get the covercrop.
>>>
>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest but with
>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>
>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make sure the
>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid and by
>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>
>>> David
>>> NW NC
>>>
>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or mustard
>>>> so
>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just for 
>>>> the
>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look for 
>>>> one
>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified potato
>>>> sets
>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them with.   I
>>>> planted
>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.   The tops
>>>> were
>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The onions
>>>> (bulb)
>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger than a 
>>>> golf
>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops were 
>>>> dying
>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went out 
>>>> and
>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the onions
>>>> I
>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of the rest
>>>> of
>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>> STRANGE.
>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and there
>>>> were
>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>
>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a good spot
>>>> for a
>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and it's
>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to really
>>>> tend
>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to hone my
>>>> skills.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than regular
>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber root 
>>>> that
>>>> is
>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows about
>>>> them.
>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't get 
>>>> them
>>>> in.
>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some onion
>>>> sets
>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
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>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
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>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>
>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter squash),
>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other greens
>>>>> like
>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so maybe 
>>>>> even
>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of coastal NC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an 
>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden beyond a
>>>>>> couple
>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a disappointment
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got were
>>>>>> nice
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my onions that
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late summer 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing now and
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet potatoes
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they would do.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and onion
>>>>>> plot
>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I think
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference online to
>>>>>> fall
>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When I was a
>>>>>> kid
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It doesn't
>>>>>> usually
>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam so 
>>>>>> soil
>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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