[AT] Real farmers problems - a discussionoflanduserelatedtofarming - was fuel problemsgetexpensive-perspectivesandreactions

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Tue Jul 6 12:50:34 PDT 2010


Hi George.  Even though they can be a pain I like to see the rabbits.   The 
same predators that kill rabbits kill quail and other game birds.  When you 
see rabbits you generally have quail and quail has been short around here 
for many many years.   First as a result of farmers keeping their farms 
mowed clean right up to the wood line.  I don't blame them for that.  They 
have to do it these days but then around here the Foxes and now Coyotes have 
showed up and really put a hurt on rabbit and quail populations.

A gentleman I knew (he passed away a few years ago at age 95 or so) owned 
thousands of acres of timberland here and scattered out around the state and 
country.  In one of his tracts near the neighborhood where he lived and 
where I live he had a beaver dam a while back.  It was flooding a lot of 
good timber and causing the rest of a large tract to be to wet to work.  He 
first hired a guy to blow up the dam with dynamite.  Within a day or so the 
dam was back.   Then he hired a guy with an excavator to go in there, way 
back off the road, and dig out the dam and clear up all the fallen timber 
and standing trees close to the beaver pond.  It cost him a couple of 
thousand dollars.  Within a week the beavers had moved down stream a ways 
and built a new dam and had the whole mess dammed up again.  I don't know 
how he finally handled it.  I suspect he hired someone to kill them.

Charlie

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From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:50 PM
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discussionoflanduserelatedtofarming - was fuelproblemsgetexpensive-perspectivesandreactions> I live in the Beaver State (Oregon) and my address is Beaverton (guess how 
it got that name) ;-)
>
> Luckily, we don't have any water close enough to our place to have a 
> Beaver problem.
>
> On my way to work in Portland I do drive past a stream in a developed area 
> and a year or so ago a beaver dammed up that stream and created a pretty 
> good size pool.  It then proceeded to fall a lot of trees along the 
> stream.  I think animal control must have finally trapped it as the water 
> has gone down some.
>
> Fathers Day weekend we were visiting my wife's parents and I noticed one 
> of their apple trees had been gnawed on by a beaver.  Closer inspection 
> showed that four apple trees had been gnawed on!  Ended up having to wrap 
> all the tree trunks with wire mesh so the beaver couldn't finish the job. 
> They unfortunately live by a large marshy area so have beavers in the 
> area.  A local guy did some trapping a few months ago, but obviously there 
> are still some in their area.
>
> Although I don't have beavers, we are getting overrun now with gray 
> diggers (California ground squirrels).  Luckily I can shoot them without 
> any worry about neighbors complaining about killing cute animals.  Even my 
> wife has gotten so she has no qualms about me shooting them.  The bunny 
> rabbits we have don't seem to bother our plants too much, but I think we 
> have enough predators around here that the rabbits are kept from becoming 
> a problem.
>
> George
>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
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>
>> Al, that is particularly true with the beaver since there were no beavers
>> in
>> coastal NC until wildlife brought them here in the 70's (I can't prove
>> that
>> but it is a widely held belief around here)
>> Since the time they showed up they've destroyed countless dollars worth 
>> of
>> timber and turned dry land into federally protected wetlands.   As best I
>> can tell there is no reason or purpose for them in our ecosystem.   Big
>> rats
>> with big teeth and a flat tail.  Don't get me wrong.  I like to look at
>> them
>> but they are out of control.
>>
>> Charlie
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