[AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of landuserelatedtofarming - was fuel problems getexpensive-perspectives andreactions

[Al Jones]

Well yes, of course the insurance co. pays.  The point is, I'd like to see 
the wildlife commission cough up a little.  In reality, WE are paying, 
through higher car insurance rates.

Al

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From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:14 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of 
landuserelatedtofarming - was fuel problems	getexpensive-perspectives 
andreactions

> Can you, as a farmer in NC, not simply shoot the damn things? Here in
> PA farmers can have someone else in to shoot them.
> Dave
> PS, My insurance company pays when I hit a deer with my car. Do you
> not have such insurance in NC?
>
> On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Al Jones wrote:
>
>> This is a sore subject with me, because like John mentions, we are
>> overrun
>> with deer, and the state of NC for the most part could care less. Yes,
>> hunters fund wildlife management programs with hunting licenses, duck
>> stamps, excises taxes on ammunition, etc.  That's the way it should
>> be, and
>> I don't mind it.  I just wish they would also fund landowners and
>> motorists
>> for their losses due to deer, beaver, and other wildlife damage with
>> some of
>> that money.   In other words, the majority of the population
>> shouldn't be
>> over-run with overprotected species so that hunters can hunt.  I'll
>> gladly
>> let the deer destroy my crops, and collide with my vehicles, if the
>> wildlife
>> commission will show up regularly with their checkbook!
>>
>> Al
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Phil Vorwerk" <pvorwerk at newulmtel.net>
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:09 PM
>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of
>> landuserelatedtofarming - was fuel problems getexpensive-
>> perspectivesandreactions> That's probably true, but I believe the
>> bulk of the WMA programs are
>> funded
>>> with hunting licenses and fees.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:16 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land
>>> userelatedtofarming - was fuel problems get expensive-perspectives
>>> andreactions
>>>
>>> There is a program where they want you to plant strips along the
>>> edge for
>>> quail.  They pay the land owner a little bit for it.
>>>
>>> The problem with wildlife management & legislation in NC, and I
>>> expect in
>>> most other states, is that it is centered around the best interests
>>> of the
>>> wildlife and the best interests of the hunter.  All other citizens
>>> rights
>>> are secondary.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:22 AM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land use
>>> relatedtofarming - was fuel problems get expensive
>>> -perspectivesandreactions> John,  I've known some farmers around
>>> here to
>>> plant a strip of pasture
>>> along
>>>> the wood line for the deer to graze on, hoping it would keep them
>>>> out of
>>>> the
>>>> field.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "john hall" <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:20 PM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land use
>>>> relatedto
>>>> farming - was fuel problems get expensive -perspectives and
>>>> reactions
>>>>
>>>>> We have a different problem here due to increased housing
>>>>> developments.
>>>>> We
>>>>> have an overpopulated deer population that is making it almost
>>>>> impossible
>>>>> to
>>>>> grow anything, be it farm or merely garden. I had 24 deer on
>>>>> about 3
>>>>> acres
>>>>> of newly emerged soybeans last night. Plus the other 8 I saw in
>>>>> other
>>>>> fields. You just can't shoot that many of the darn things. They
>>>>> have
>>>>> even
>>>>> gotten so bad we can only grow bearded wheat.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>
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