[AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land userelatedtofarming - was fuel problems get expensive-perspectives andreactions

[David Rotigel]

Come on Charlie, Stop holding back so much--let us know how you really  
feel!
	Dave

On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:40 PM, charlie hill wrote:

> Yep that's pretty much the case.   There was an article on a local TV
> station this week.  A guy in Washington NC who builds boat docks and  
> sea
> walls for a living left his pile driving barge at a job site for  
> several
> weeks until he needed it somewhere else.  When he went to get it  
> there was
> an Osprey nest built on top of the boom.   He moved the barge a few  
> miles up
> the river where some do-gooders saw the nest and turned him in.  The
> wildlife folks showed up to examine the nest.  No birds were in it  
> and the
> guy claims there were no birds in it when he moved it.
> Wildlife is doing an investigation to find out if he moved the barge  
> and
> disturbed the nesting of "endangered" Ospreys.  Endangered my rear  
> end.
> There is a nest of them on a channel marker in front of my house  
> right now.
> They have nested there every year for the last 15 or 20 years I  
> know.    My
> neighbor put his little Yorkie out a couple of months ago about 5 am  
> and the
> dog never came back.  The little fellow was such a scared little dog  
> that he
> wouldn't even come over next door to my house and yapped at the top  
> of his
> lungs for every breath when he was outside.
> I'll take bets that his collar is in that Osprey nest right now  
> along with
> part of his hide and a few bones.
>
> I believe in stewardship of wild life and wild places but when a man  
> can't
> work because a so called endangered species is sitting on his  
> equipment it's
> getting out of hand.  As for the Yorkie, that's just natures way,   
> too bad
> for the dog but please don't try to tell me Ospreys are endangered.   
> (or
> brown Pelicans either).  Deer?  at this point there should probably  
> be a
> bounty on them in some places.
>
> Charlie
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:16 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> >
> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land
> userelatedtofarming - was fuel problems get expensive- 
> perspectivesandreactions> There is a program where they want you to  
> plant strips along the edge for
>> quail.  They pay the land owner a little bit for it.
>>
>> The problem with wildlife management & legislation in NC, and I  
>> expect in
>> most other states, is that it is centered around the best interests  
>> of the
>> wildlife and the best interests of the hunter.  All other citizens  
>> rights
>> are secondary.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:22 AM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land use
>> relatedtofarming - was fuel problems get
>> expensive -perspectivesandreactions> John,  I've known some farmers  
>> around
>> here to plant a strip of pasture
>> along
>>> the wood line for the deer to graze on, hoping it would keep them  
>>> out of
>>> the
>>> field.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "john hall" <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:20 PM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land use
>>> relatedto
>>> farming - was fuel problems get expensive -perspectives and  
>>> reactions
>>>
>>>> We have a different problem here due to increased housing  
>>>> developments.
>>>> We
>>>> have an overpopulated deer population that is making it almost
>>>> impossible
>>>> to
>>>> grow anything, be it farm or merely garden. I had 24 deer on  
>>>> about 3
>>>> acres
>>>> of newly emerged soybeans last night. Plus the other 8 I saw in  
>>>> other
>>>> fields. You just can't shoot that many of the darn things. They  
>>>> have
>>>> even
>>>> gotten so bad we can only grow bearded wheat.
>>>>
>>>> John Hall
>>>>
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