[AT] Engine Temp Gauges

[drupert at seanet.com]

Changing to the Farmall H for a moment -

The parts catalogs would seem to indicate that disc brakes came to the H
line at the tail end of the H production and that all Super H's had discs
as standard.

Specifically, the H Parts Catalog (TC-27E) shows discs starting at S/N
391358 and up which means that only the last few hundred H's had them. 
However, this manual also shows an aftermarket disc brake which could be
retrofitted on all prior H's.  I have seen a couple of H's with these
aftermarket disc brakes and, if you observe carefully, you can see that
they are different from the factory installed discs on the SH's.  The SH
Parts Catalog (TC-49) shows only one brake and that is the disc brake that
was installed on the H's at S/N 391358.

Don't know if/how this relates to the M/SM but I do know I have seen the
aftermarket disc brake on the straight M.

Dudley


> The very last straight M's had disk brakes.  Knowing IH you probably could
> get band brakes on the Super M but I was thinking they were discontinued.
> The SM would have had the faster transmission.  I have a stage I '53
> Louisville SM under the shelter that I will get going one day, it looks
> just like a straight M--belly pump, etc.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Feb 1, 2010 10:55 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Engine Temp Gauges
>>
>>On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Al Jones <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>> I posted this on the farmall side......I have a next door neighbor, my
>>> great-uncle, that owns a '49 Super A straight gas burner, with the
>>> temp. gauge and shutters. Â It's the only one I have seen in real life,
>>> though all that equipment was optional. This tractor has no pto or belt
>>> pulley which is sort of unusual too. Â It was a grey market tractor so
>>> it may've originally been headed for an area where these options were
>>> more common before it was, shall we say, "diverted."
>>>
>>> The Touch Control temp. gauge came later in production, I want to say
>>> around '51-'53. Â My 48 does not have one, so tractors with the gauge
>>> seem strange to me. Â I'd love to have a newer Super A with one, just
>>> for the sake of having it.
>>>
>>> Al
>>======================================
>>
>>
>>I'm trying to remember (not always easy) if the Super A became a Super
>>A without a HP increase? I seem to recall that the Super C did not get
>>a HP boost from the C. Am I recalling that right? If so were there any
>>others that became "Super" without a HP boost. The Super M was a fair
>>jump from the M and had some other additions as well. Three were a
>>bigger clutch and a bigger radiator and a better gear spread.
>>Eventually the disk brakes, live hydraulics.
>>We had a neighbor that had bought one of the very early  Super M's
>>new. It had more engine and was tagged "S - M" but it had the old
>>brakes and belly hydraulic pump. I do not recall if it had the
>>transmission changes or the bigger clutch and radiator.
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Have you hugged your horses today?
>>
>>Francis Robinson
>>aka "farmer"
>>Central Indiana USA
>>robinson46176 at gmail.com
>>
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