[AJD] Revisit to an old topic...FUEL TANK CLEANING.

Mitchell Daly md31043 at msn.com
Tue Aug 24 16:45:19 PDT 2010 

At our age and the age of the tractors, I don't think this will be a problem.

Mitch - md31043 at msn.com



> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:57:54 -0700
> To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
> From: jwilkens at eoni.com
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Revisit to an old topic...FUEL TANK CLEANING.
> 
> Garrell, this might have been mentioned already, but just wanted to 
> mention what I learned from our local radiator shop......once you 
> install tank sealer you might never be able to make significant 
> future repairs. With when you hot-tank a fuel tank with old sealer 
> in it the sealer usually gums up and sticks inside and partially 
> comes out in loose flakes. The radiator shop guys usually have to 
> order a new tank. John W.
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:42 PM 08/24/2010, you wrote:
> >Mitch:
> >Speaking or sealer, what is your recommendation there??
> >Thanks,
> >Garrell
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> >On Behalf Of Mitchell Daly
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:25 PM
> >To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> >Subject: Re: [AJD] Revisit to an old topic...FUEL TANK
> >CLEANING.
> >
> >
> >Remember that you are working in a metal tank and anything
> >like nuts and bolts will be very difficult to get out with a
> >magnet. Trust me. I know. I've found that a piece of chain
> >works like a charm. It's easy to roll around in the tank and
> >it's also quite easy to retrieve. I also made up a little
> >drop light that I could lower into the tank and look around
> >at the job. Didn't have any trouble with the tank etcher or
> >the sealer.
> >
> >Mitch Daly - md31043 at msn.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: dledford at classicnet.net
> > > To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:30:51 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [AJD] Revisit to an old topic...FUEL TANK
> >CLEANING.
> > >
> > > If you are going to put something in the tank to rattle
> >around in it to
> > > break up the rust, use something you can take out of the
> >tank with a magnet.
> > > I bought a half finished project tractor from a guy one
> >time, a '37 A, and
> > > he had put several handfulls of rocks into the tank to
> >clean it out. I was
> > > several days trying to pick those rocks out. The baffle at
> >the neck of the
> > > tank prevented the rocks from shaking out. I could get a
> >few to fall out by
> > > shaking the tank, but not near all. I got quite the upper
> >body workout,
> > > that's for sure. I finally found a very LONG pair of
> >mechanic's tweezers and
> > > picked the rocks out one by one. I can only imagine how
> >fun it would be to
> > > pick out something slick and round like marbles. My vote
> >would be a length
> > > or two of chain or a couple of handfulls of nuts and
> >bolts. It will save you
> > > a lot of aggrivation.
> > >
> > > My two cents worth
> > >
> > > Duane
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Johnson" <mark.s.johnson at pixius.net>
> > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AJD] Revisit to an old topic...FUEL TANK
> >CLEANING.
> > >
> > >
> > > > arrell:
> > > >
> > > > There are probably as many methods out there as there
> >are individuals. One
> > > > I
> > > > have
> > > > heard of (Spencer Yost recommends it) is to remove the
> >tank and put a few
> > > > handfuls
> > > > of clean river gravel in it, then put it in something
> >like a rock tumbler
> > > > for a time, to
> > > > knock all the rust and so forth out of it. I have to
> >admit I've never
> > > > tried
> > > > it - it does
> > > > seem like you'd run the risk of knocking holes in spots
> >that were merely
> > > > weak spots
> > > > before you started. [Having gone through patching a gas
> >tank recently, I'm
> > > > sensitive
> > > > to that...]
> > > >
> > > > The carb. cleaner method will probably help a lot too,
> >but it will only do
> > > > a
> > > > really good
> > > > job on the bottom of the tank unless you turn it on its
> >sides and upside
> > > > down, too - again
> > > > requiring removal from the tractor. I'm fairly certain
> >that a good
> > > > cleaning
> > > > solvent will
> > > > do way more to remove deposits from old gasoline than
> >will clean fuel -
> > > > but
> > > > a post-flush
> > > > certainly won't hurt.
> > > >
> > > > Mark J
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <gdombaugh at 1kms.com>
> > > > To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
> > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:38 AM
> > > > Subject: [AJD] Revisit to an old topic...FUEL TANK
> >CLEANING.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Good morning Gentleman:
> > > >> I for the most part have been a silent observer of this
> >list
> > > >> for many years and have learned much in the process.
> >Thanks
> > > >> to you all...
> > > >>
> > > >> I have also read many opinions and preferences to the
> > > >> problem
> > > >> I am about to attack of cleaning the sludge and varnish
> >like
> > > >> crap out of my fuel tank on my 1944 JD "A".
> >Unfortunately
> > > >> I can not find those old emails now that I need them.
> >My
> > > >> first inclination was to drain all the old fuel and
> >pour
> > > >> about one gallon of carburetor cleaner in the bottom of
> >the
> > > >> tank and let it set for a day or two.... followed by a
> >good
> > > >> flushing with clean gasoline. Is there a better opinion
> >out
> > > >> there that you would suggest ???
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks in advance,
> > > >>
> > > >> Garrell Dombaugh
> > > >> Andover, KS
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From:
> >antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > >>
> >[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> > > >> On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:59 AM
> > > >> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> > > >> Subject: Re: [AJD] New addition's
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, you have to start somewhere. I wouldn't worry too
> >much
> > > >> about the MF
> > > >> magneto -
> > > >> unless that's the reason it's only hitting on one
> >cylinder.
> > > >> With the
> > > >> multi-piece radiator shell,
> > > >> cooling system leaks aren't unusual; as long as none of
> >the
> > > >> pieces are
> > > >> warped you should be
> > > >> able to put it right.
> > > >>
> > > >> On your A with the hand-stamped s/n: can you tell for
> > > >> certain whether the
> > > >> overstamped
> > > >> number is the same as the original? From the picture,
> >I'm
> > > >> not sure that it
> > > >> is - I see what
> > > >> looks like '8 2 3' underlying the '3 4 8' that is
> > > >> hand-stamped.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mark J
> > > >> '40 H
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
> > > >> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:47 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [AJD] New addition's
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Mark,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks--
> > > >>> Not running very well right now. Seems to be firing on
> >one
> > > >> cylinder only
> > > >>> also possibly a stuck valve. Need to fix some cooling
> > > >> system leaks. And
> > > >>> its
> > > >>> got a massey ferguson Mag on it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Added some more pictures to the site--
> > > >>> Also my project tractor
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Eric
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>> From: "Mark Johnson" <mark.s.johnson at pixius.net>
> > > >>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > >>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:29 PM
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [AJD] New addition's
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Eric:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> That is a pretty nice looking unstyled B. Someone has
> > > >> already put a good
> > > >>>> deal of work into it.
> > > >>>> I trust that it is running...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Mark J
> > > >>>> Wichita, KS
> > > >>>> '40 H (_not_ running)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Maybe I will get some time to work on my H this
> >fall...my
> > > >> school schedule
> > > >>>> is
> > > >>>> rather more limited
> > > >>>> than it has been, and I still haven't found a
> > > >> cotton-picking (or any
> > > >>>> other
> > > >>>> kind of) job. Since summer
> > > >>>> school ended, it has been too hot to even think about
> > > >> going out to the
> > > >>>> tractor shed after about 7:30
> > > >>>> in the morning - average high temp 97.5 degrees in
> > > >> August, worst day 108.
> > > >>>> Normal average high
> > > >>>> is about 91 for August.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
> > > >>>> To: "Antique John Deere list"
> > > >>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:05 AM
> > > >>>> Subject: [AJD] New addition's
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Jacob and I had another fun (long but short) weekend
> > > >> together!!!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We started by heading to Benkelman Ne for and
> >auction
> > > >> Saturday they had
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >>>>> 28 D listed in the sale bill so we had to check that
> >one
> > > >> out. Jacob
> > > >>>>> wants
> > > >>>>> to add a D to the new collection. We got there and I
> > > >> immediately knew it
> > > >>>>> was a typo -- should have been listed as a '48 --
> >big
> > > >> difference.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Prices were all over the place -- Jacob didn't get a
> > > >> good bid that day.
> > > >>>>> I
> > > >>>>> was screwing around and ended up with a Hand Start A
> > > >> from an unknown
> > > >>>>> year
> > > >>>>> due to what appears to be a hand stamped serial over
> >the
> > > >> original for a
> > > >>>>> hundred bucks.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Sunday was a different story--- to the other end of
> >the
> > > >> state at Waverly
> > > >>>>> NE -- no D's but a few B's and an A on steel or
> >partial
> > > >> steel. Also a
> > > >>>>> wanted addition to the Barn. So the barn got a
> >little
> > > >> more crowded this
> > > >>>>> weekend with the addition of my A and Jacob's 1937
> > > >> Unstyled B with rear
> > > >>>>> steel
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I've rearranged the website that I've created for
> >our
> > > >> "Green" since the
> > > >>>>> last post but you should be able to find your way.
> > > >>>>> Of course there will be more pictures later from the
> > > >> unloading and
> > > >>>>> moving
> > > >>>>> to the farm.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> http://www.ponyexpressinn.com/jacob.htm
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Have a look.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Eric - ? A
> > > >>>>> Jacob - 43 B
> > > >>>>> 37 B
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