[AT] A little tractor content

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Aug 21 06:13:11 PDT 2010 

Cecil, where do you find parts for them?  Are they readily available?
Just curious.

Have you considered just re-wiring the system to something you understand? 
I assume it doesn't have any sort of computerized systems on it.

Charlie

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From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:33 AM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] A little tractor content

> My Belarus 825 is having problems with the neutral safety switch or the
> 12/24 switch.  It runns on 12 and starts on 24.  Reallly has a weird 
> switch
> that has some replaceable fuse links in it and one side has a fuse burned.
> To be safe we chjanged the batteries to new before we put in a new fuse 
> link
> and it still wont crank.  I need the working diagram and I can;t seem to
> find one that I had.
> I know these are russian tractors, but if you ever get the chance to get
> one, they are cheap, reliable, and run on fumes!!!  This is the first
> problem in 1 1/2 years with my 825.   I had a 4wd slip clutch problem in 
> my
> 8345 and it cost $15 for new clutches.  A neighbors JD has what looks to 
> be
> the same clutch in his driveline and it was $300 for the clutches....
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has
> itallwhen his 60th birthday is coming.
>
>
>> Charlie I agree and I have enjoyed this and other stories of yours
>> immensely.  I guess it wouldn't hurt for all of us to try to put in a
>> little
>> more tractor content--seems like when something does come through it's
>> about
>> a bless-ed ford or ferguson!  :)
>>
>> Al
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:22 AM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has
>> itall
>> when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>
>>> charlie hill wrote:
>>>> For the record,  If you notice the message below is not complete.  That
>>>> is
>>>> because I wrote it to blow off a little steam and intended to delete 
>>>> it.
>>>> This #$%^$%^^ mail program that Windows 7 uses is the biggest piece of
>>>> junk
>>>> Microsoft ever created.  I tried to delete the message and it put it
>>>> in my drafts folder.  When I tried to delete it from the drafts folder
>>>> it
>>>> sent it.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it's just as well it got sent anyway.  I hope it didn't offend
>>>> anyone but there are a handful of us that try to keep the old original
>>>> ATIS
>>>> list alive.
>>>> It's hard to do when no one ever asks a tractor question.  If Spencer 
>>>> or
>>>> those of you in the inner circle are opposed to an off topic thread
>>>> here,
>>>> why don't
>>>> you talk about it around the camp fire at Portland and decide if you
>>>> want
>>>> this list to continue.  I like to hear from my friend Mattias.   I
>>>> appreciate him
>>>> posting the link to that video and don't apologize for starting an off
>>>> topic
>>>> dynamite conversation on a nearly dead list.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:09 AM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has
>>>> itall
>>>> when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> With all due respect to my good list friends it seems some of you 
>>>>> think
>>>>> we
>>>>> are doing something wrong by having an off topic discussion.  This
>>>>> list,
>>>>> the
>>>>> old original list, has been mainly
>>>>> an off topic list for years.  It became so when different brands of
>>>>> tractors
>>>>> were segregated away from the main list.   I'd like to remind you that
>>>>> just
>>>>> a few days ago there was almost no traffic on this list.  In fact it
>>>>> sometimes goes a few days at a time without any postings at all.  It
>>>>> seems
>>>>> to me that when someone does speak up and start a conversation that
>>>>> some
>>>>> of
>>>>> you are complaining or at least making light of the off topic content.
>>>>> Gene,   I don't use the new lists.  When I've tried, at first, I was
>>>>> unable
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:10 AM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend who
>>>>> hasitallwhen his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So could I, Gene.  It's one of those things where once you get us
>>>>>> started,
>>>>>> this thread could go on until next week.  You guys at Portland will
>>>>>> spend
>>>>>> half of every night making shim stock and trading stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish I could join you at Portland, but I have to draw the line
>>>>>> somewhere, and I still have three major trips planned for this fall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Gene Dotson <gdotsly at watchtv.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:53
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend who
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Larry;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     This sounds like a good topic for the new
>>>>>>> list on the "Round the Pot
>>>>>>> Belly Stove" forum. I could tell a couple of my own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.atis.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?14-round-the-pot-
>>>>>>> bellied-stove
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Gene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend
>>>>>>> who has
>>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL!  Good story, Mark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I may paraphrase a fairly recent SNL skit -- "Please don't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> make me tell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a dynamite story.  You really don't want me to tell a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dynamite story."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "No one's asking you to tell a dynamite story."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME TELL A DYNAMITE STORY."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Mark Greer <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 21:23
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> friend who has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've probably told this here before, but my neighbor up the
>>>>>>>>> street tells a
>>>>>>>>> story about dynamite that would NEVER happen today. Lawrence is
>>>>>>>>> 70-something
>>>>>>>>> and has farmed all his life. When he was in high school his
>>>>>>>>> father called in
>>>>>>>>> to town and ordered a case of dynamite from the local hardware
>>>>>>>>> to blast some
>>>>>>>>> stumps out with. Larry G knows who they are (Johnson's in
>>>>>>>>> Orrville).
>>>>>>>>> Lawrence walked over to the hardware after school and picked up
>>>>>>>>> the case of
>>>>>>>>> dynamite and then got on the school bus and took it home. If you
>>>>>>>>> tried that
>>>>>>>>> today you'd be on the national news in no time flat.
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend
>>>>>>>>> who has
>>>>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So much for the land of the free.  Can you imagine what
>>>>>>>>> would happen if we
>>>>>>>>> did that in the US these days?  Growing up I had a friend
>>>>>>>>> who's grandmother
>>>>>>>>> gave him a case of dynamite for Christmas every
>>>>>>>>> year.   He rode around the
>>>>>>>>> country setting off dynamite like most of us did fire
>>>>>>>>> crackers.   Don't mean
>>>>>>>>> to be political by this but things sure have changed more here
>>>>>>>>> than they
>>>>>>>>> apparently have in other places.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>> I personally like the off topic posts, as there is a wealth of knowledge
>>> within the list members.   I have a lot of old tractors and lets get
>>> real.  There are not a lot of really high tech or rocket scientist
>>> problems that erupt with them.  The most complicated thing is the
>>> hydraulics and those problems are usually a leak or not leaking as it
>>> should.  These things wre made simple so they would last 4 lifetimes.
>>> Right now I am trying to work with some fairly sophisticated surveying
>>> equipment tat is less than 10 years old, but cannot get the data out of
>>> it because the medias have changed in the last few years so that when my
>>> old computer died, I now have no way of inputting the data into the
>>> computer to plot it on autocad.  Also my auto cad program is now
>>> obsolete (2004) so I cannot call anyone and get any tech assistance.
>>> Their solution is to upgrade for $5000  My Nikon 2006 total station has
>>> been bought out by Trimble and to get any tech assistance, I have to
>>> send Trimble $1000 each year. only to be referred to a tech support
>>> grunt in India who learned how to speak english by a correspondence
>>> course. My Topcon GPS (2004) survey system is obsolete and the salesman
>>> who knew how to figure out the problem left the company to go to
>>> Florida.  He has not been replaced.
>>>
>>> At least the guys on this list have done enough varied occupations that
>>> they can relate to what I am talking about and can offer suggestions.  I
>>> also believe that just because we have the technology to ad a bunch of
>>> bells and whistles, it doesn't mean we should.
>>>
>>> I don't like the format of those other types of lists, I like this one.
>>> I read it religiously.  I seldom read a newspaper, but I open up my
>>> email list several times a day.
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>> I personally enjoyed the dynamite story.   And I, too,  think the
>>> country has changed way way too much
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