[AT] Question on a hay Rake

Mon Apr 5 18:23:22 PDT 2010

    Charlie;

    It not only puts it in and out of gear, but also reverses for tedding.

    I hauled 3 of these for my Amish neighbors and all were IH. 2 had the 
large main wheels and 1 had the small rubber tires. Rest of the rake was 
basically the same, icluding the wide spaced rear wheels. New Idea wheels 
are spaced much closer.

                            Gene


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> Rupert,  I'm with you that it is a traction drive and one of those levers 
> is
> to put it in and out of gear.
>
> Charlie
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>> Hello Larry,
>> You could be right as I was guessing. How do you account for the gear
>> box on the right front wheel? I figure it is to drive the rake but could
>> be wrong.
>> Rupert
>>
>> On 4/5/2010 9:17 AM, Larry Goss wrote:
>>> Umm.  I doubt that, Rupert.  Horse-drawn hay rakes never had front 
>>> wheels
>>> that small -- too much rolling friction, too likely to slip in the 
>>> field,
>>> too much mechanical disadvantage to power the reel, and the existing
>>> structure is too light to take the torque to swing the rake around 
>>> behind
>>> a team.  If we look closely, we may find a PTO drive to power the reel.
>>>
>>> [Reminiscence mode]  George Gilleff was a neighbor who still had a team
>>> of Belgians next door when I was growing up.  He borrowed the John Deere
>>> side delivery rake from us on a regular basis because Dad left the rake
>>> set up for horses, rather than to shorten the tongue for tractor work.
>>> George was raking "first cutting" alfalfa with his horses in his bottom
>>> lands and fell asleep in the driver's seat.  The left front wheel fell
>>> off, but George didn't really rouse himself until the horses stopped. 
>>> By
>>> that time, he had plowed a furrow about 100 feet long as the horses had
>>> dragged the whole rake across the field.  They quit because that was 
>>> more
>>> work than they were used to, or really wanted to do.  We laughed about
>>> that incident for years.  We never were sure how much of George's
>>> "sleepiness" was natural and how much was alcohol-induced -- George was
>>> also the local brew master for the Macedonian community and "kept a buzz
>>> on" most of the time.  Those were the days.  :-)
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010 23:23
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Question on a hay Rake
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>
>>>> My opinion on why it has a drivers seat is the rake was
>>>> originally
>>>> built for pulling with horses. The pole and double tree have
>>>> been
>>>> replaced with a hitch to pull it with a tractor.
>>>> I have no idea on the make or model.
>>>> Rupert
>>>>
>>>> On 4/4/2010 6:11 PM, Larry Goss wrote:
>>>>> I'm not an authority on that, Bill, but I recognize it from
>>>> the 50's.
>>>>> There are things about that rake that I have never fully understood.
>>>>> It's designed for being towed by a tractor, so why does it
>>>> have a
>>>>> driver's seat on it?  I remember seeing it advertised in
>>>> Successful>  Farming.  It was red with yellow lettering
>>>> painted on the steel, and
>>>>> it was a brand like Massey-Ferguson.  That's what I
>>>> remember, but it
>>>>> could be all wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill
>>>>> Thompson<billt at agiftofmaine.com>  Date: Sunday, April 4,
>>>> 2010 18:33
>>>>> Subject: [AT] Question on a hay Rake To: Antique tractor email
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found an old hay rake out in a field.  Nobody seems to know
>>>>>> anything about it.  I looked it all over and I can't see any
>>>>>> markings on it.  It would need a little work and some
>>>> "powder and
>>>>>> paint" but all in all I think it might be a nice little
>>>> project for
>>>>>> me.  Anybody got an idea on what make it is and what its
>>>> worth?>>  The link is below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.agiftofmaine.com/bills_old_hay_rake.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Bill Thompson Sherman Mills, Maine
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>>>> yvt
>>>>
>>>> Rupert Wenig
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>> Rupert Wenig
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