[AT] Question on a hay Rake

Mon Apr 5 17:04:48 PDT 2010

Rupert,  I'm with you that it is a traction drive and one of those levers is 
to put it in and out of gear.

Charlie
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> Hello Larry,
> You could be right as I was guessing. How do you account for the gear
> box on the right front wheel? I figure it is to drive the rake but could
> be wrong.
> Rupert
>
> On 4/5/2010 9:17 AM, Larry Goss wrote:
>> Umm.  I doubt that, Rupert.  Horse-drawn hay rakes never had front wheels 
>> that small -- too much rolling friction, too likely to slip in the field, 
>> too much mechanical disadvantage to power the reel, and the existing 
>> structure is too light to take the torque to swing the rake around behind 
>> a team.  If we look closely, we may find a PTO drive to power the reel.
>>
>> [Reminiscence mode]  George Gilleff was a neighbor who still had a team 
>> of Belgians next door when I was growing up.  He borrowed the John Deere 
>> side delivery rake from us on a regular basis because Dad left the rake 
>> set up for horses, rather than to shorten the tongue for tractor work. 
>> George was raking "first cutting" alfalfa with his horses in his bottom 
>> lands and fell asleep in the driver's seat.  The left front wheel fell 
>> off, but George didn't really rouse himself until the horses stopped.  By 
>> that time, he had plowed a furrow about 100 feet long as the horses had 
>> dragged the whole rake across the field.  They quit because that was more 
>> work than they were used to, or really wanted to do.  We laughed about 
>> that incident for years.  We never were sure how much of George's 
>> "sleepiness" was natural and how much was alcohol-induced -- George was 
>> also the local brew master for the Macedonian community and "kept a buzz 
>> on" most of the time.  Those were the days.  :-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>> Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010 23:23
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Question on a hay Rake
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>
>>> My opinion on why it has a drivers seat is the rake was
>>> originally
>>> built for pulling with horses. The pole and double tree have
>>> been
>>> replaced with a hitch to pull it with a tractor.
>>> I have no idea on the make or model.
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>> On 4/4/2010 6:11 PM, Larry Goss wrote:
>>>> I'm not an authority on that, Bill, but I recognize it from
>>> the 50's.
>>>> There are things about that rake that I have never fully understood.
>>>> It's designed for being towed by a tractor, so why does it
>>> have a
>>>> driver's seat on it?  I remember seeing it advertised in
>>> Successful>  Farming.  It was red with yellow lettering
>>> painted on the steel, and
>>>> it was a brand like Massey-Ferguson.  That's what I
>>> remember, but it
>>>> could be all wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill
>>>> Thompson<billt at agiftofmaine.com>  Date: Sunday, April 4,
>>> 2010 18:33
>>>> Subject: [AT] Question on a hay Rake To: Antique tractor email
>>>> discussion group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I found an old hay rake out in a field.  Nobody seems to know
>>>>> anything about it.  I looked it all over and I can't see any
>>>>> markings on it.  It would need a little work and some
>>> "powder and
>>>>> paint" but all in all I think it might be a nice little
>>> project for
>>>>> me.  Anybody got an idea on what make it is and what its
>>> worth?>>  The link is below.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.agiftofmaine.com/bills_old_hay_rake.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Bill Thompson Sherman Mills, Maine
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