[AT] OT Gasifiers

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Wed Oct 14 08:52:27 PDT 2009


I was thinking about using this type of technology to burn round bales 
for heating an outside boiler for my home and shop.  I have about 100 
bales of hay that is sold at the cost of baling every year.  It would be 
nice not to run that heat pump in the winter...

Cecil inOKla

charliehill wrote:
> Steve, that is why I am studying it now.  To see if it's feasible to do and 
> if so to start making plans for it before I need it.  I shared this with the 
> list for two reasons; to see if anyone here had any knowledge or direct 
> experience with gasification and to share it with my friends so you all 
> could consider it if you like.
> 
> I'm not proposing running engines with it necessarily.  There are other uses 
> such as firing a boiler to turn a steam turbine, etc.  There is a huge wood 
> engergy plant in my county that does exactly that.   They "burn" waste wood 
> to produce steam for our industrial park and they are very successful and 
> efficient at it.  I don't know their exact process but I'm pretty sure it is 
> not just a "burn".  I have all ideas that they are essentially a 
> gasification plant because they have very little stack emissions and their 
> by product is something that looks very much like bio char and it is being 
> spread on farm land in the area.
> 
> Sometimes I wonder why I bother.  I tried to share this stuff with you with 
> good intent and all it get back is na-saying and arguement.  If you don't 
> like the idea just forget about it and move on.  I know a man that used to 
> make a 6 figure salary selling Encylopedia Britanica.  In the early 80's 
> some of us tried to tell him what was about to happen to his industry.  He 
> refuesed to listen.  About 10 years later they put him out to pasture and 
> without about 90% of the pension he had earned.  Things are changing rapidly 
> in this country.  If you don't keep your ear to the ground and look for 
> alternatives you might get left behind.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT Gasifiers
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM, charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> The only way I would want use a gasifier to run a car or tractor would be
>> the same as it was used in the war, in an emergency. My thoughts on using
>> gasifiers are just as you mention Mattias, to use some waste biomass to 
>> run
>> a generator or to more efficiently produce heat.
> 
> 
> Only problem there, Charlie, is that emergencies always happen
> suddenly, by definition.  And you can't just "suddenly" develop your
> own wood gas rig.  Even the crappy ones that barely function take a
> whole lot of home-shop fiddling to get there.
> 
> Everything I've always heard about wood gas was quite negative and
> that's pure engineering, not counting at all the emotional connections
> to WWII.  It's quite messy, the engine runs terribly if at all, and
> the gases are extremely corrosive.
> 
> SO
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