[Farmall] Hydraulic Questions

szabelsk at gdls.com szabelsk at gdls.com
Tue Nov 24 10:13:06 PST 2009


I just picked up a McCormick 30 loader for my H. I plan to put it on this 
weekend to move a couple of truckloads of dirt in the front yard, and have 
the H ready for snow removal. I'll going to attach it to the belly pump 
for now, but plan on installing a live pump that I managed to acquire 
recently. I figure I'll do the live pump in the spring when I have a 
little more time and don't have to rush things.

I know that a few of you have already installed live pumps so I have a few 
questions regarding the reservoir. Can the existing belly pump reservoir 
be used with a live pump and would it have sufficient volume? Or should I 
plan on building a new reservoir and mounting it somewhere, like under the 
seat? Also I'll probably need a control valve of some sort since I'll be 
pulling the pump out of the reservoir and won't have a controllable valve.

Also, I've run across two different Farmall hydraulic valves recently. 
One, I believe, is a 1/200 remote control valve, and other I believe is a 
1/196 selective lift control valve. From what I can figure, the 1/200 is 
used with the belly pump to control a single separate hydraulic cylinder 
that isn't already being controlled by direct connection to the belly pump 
(like a rear hitch cylinder). The 1/196 selective valve would be used to 
control three separate hydraulic cylinders(?), and provides up and down 
control. 

Since I can't find any data on how these valves are meant to be used 
(other than a few pictures of the 1/200 valve installed on parts tractor), 
I have a few questions regarding their use: 

Would either work with the live pump, or are these both designed for use 
only with the belly pump only?

How does the 1/196 mount to the tractor? I'm guessing the valve body on 
the belly pump housing, and the control somewhere near the seat, maybe on 
the fender?

Haven't had the H long enough to gather up all the manuals I'll need. A 
friend is giving me all the manuals for an H he sold last year, as soon as 
he remembers what he did with them. .Also don't know what manuals I'll be 
getting (says he has manuals for everything under the sun regarding the 
H). So in the meantime, I'm trying to figure things out by internet 
searches and asking knowledgeable people. I want to have everything I need 
for use with the live pump on hand when I start to put it in.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

Carl Szabelski



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