[AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad - One more time

charliehill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Mar 14 12:44:04 PDT 2009


It would take a while to catch on around here Bob.  Folks up your way are 
used to celebrating Maple Syrup.
Most around here don't know anything about it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad - One more time


> Charlie, if you could pull it off, you'd be famous ;>)
>
> The festival here draws thousands and also plenty of media coverage. 
> There's
> also lots of entertainment, games, food and of course vendors/sugarers
> selling how-to booklets, knickknacks, syrup, maple sugar candy and maple
> butter.
>
> Guess we've about whipped this horse to death now.
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
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>> I'm about to decide I want to try it now!  grins.
>> I'd bet if you got is set up right you could promote cooking day, have a
>> bluegrass band, some games for the kids and get people to pay to watch.
>> Particularly if you maybe cooked a pig and had some syrup avaailable for
>> tasting.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
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>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:42 PM
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>>> Charlie, I can only imagine how big & hot a fire is needed for pans that
>>> large.We have a Maple Festival nearby here, in Marathon NY, that has
>>> gotten
>>> a lot of people interested in sugaring. A few of the big commercial
>>> operations that exhibit there are impressive ... at least the videos of
>>> their operations are.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
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>>>> yeah he had the thing built on a trailer.  The main problem he had was
>>>> they
>>>> couldn't get burners under it that would get it hot enough.
>>>>
>>>> Every year at the NC State Fair they have a cane syrup display up and
>>>> running for the entire week.  It's wood fired of course.  That pan is
>>>> probably as big or bigger than the one my friend built.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
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>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:31 PM
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>>>>
>>>>> Charlie,Wow! 8x16? No wonder he had trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul, don't feel bad. I know several people who tried their hand at
>>>>> making
>>>>> syrup at home with less-than-expected results. I blame it on some of
>>>>> those
>>>>> "farmette" on-line how-to web sites that post articles w/o ever trying
>>>>> the
>>>>> operations involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob the pan that my friend built was a big one.  More like 8' x 16'.
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> didn't do to well making syrup.  He spent all that money on a pan and
>>>>>> fixed
>>>>>> up and old cane press.  Then he had a crop failure on his cane patch.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't know if he tried it again the next year or not.  His health
>>>>>> turned
>>>>>> bad
>>>>>> about that time and he has since died after a long fight with cancer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:25 PM
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Henry's right ... w/o a sap pan, appropriate firebox and covered
>>>>>>> shelter
>>>>>>> bldg, you'll be wasting sap. As I recall, our pan was about 5x3. You
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> consider seeing if anyone nearby you is sugaring and review their
>>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:23 AM
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you haven't figguered out how/where you are going to boil the 
>>>>>>>> sap
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> bother starting.   I learned this the hard way when I was 14.   My
>>>>>>>> neighbor had the spouts, and buckets were easy to find.  Nobody had
>>>>>>>> anything useful for boiling sap.  We ended up with about 200 
>>>>>>>> gallons
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> sap, and were dumping some for lack of storage!  (I'm not sure how
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> dumped, I think we were collecting 10 gallons a day)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What we tried was a hot water bath canner on a barrel wood stove.
>>>>>>>> Never
>>>>>>>> got hot enough to boil anything despite plenty of dry wood to work
>>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>>> I was told my friend's parents had tried boiling in the house a few
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> before, but the house got all sticky.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't need everything now, but if you don't have a plan and all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> equipment on order, you could be wasting time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roy Morgan <k1lky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Paul Waugh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will try the copper pipe and screw. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ask around the town. You may find someone who's got buckets full of
>>>>>>>>>the made-to-purpose spigots that simply tap into the hole, and who
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>not planning to use them now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You'll need some buckets, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Note: about one barrel (50 gallons) of sap is needed for a gallon 
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>syrup.  You'll need a big pile of sawmill scraps to feed the fire.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Roy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Roy Morgan
>>>>>>>>>k1lky at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>529 Cobb St.
>>>>>>>>>Groton NY, 13073
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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