[AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad - One more time

Sat Mar 14 12:40:16 PDT 2009

Charlie, if you could pull it off, you'd be famous ;>)

The festival here draws thousands and also plenty of media coverage. There's 
also lots of entertainment, games, food and of course vendors/sugarers 
selling how-to booklets, knickknacks, syrup, maple sugar candy and maple 
butter.

Guess we've about whipped this horse to death now.
Bob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad

> I'm about to decide I want to try it now!  grins.
> I'd bet if you got is set up right you could promote cooking day, have a
> bluegrass band, some games for the kids and get people to pay to watch.
> Particularly if you maybe cooked a pig and had some syrup avaailable for
> tasting.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>
>
>> Charlie, I can only imagine how big & hot a fire is needed for pans that
>> large.We have a Maple Festival nearby here, in Marathon NY, that has
>> gotten
>> a lot of people interested in sugaring. A few of the big commercial
>> operations that exhibit there are impressive ... at least the videos of
>> their operations are.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>
>>
>>> yeah he had the thing built on a trailer.  The main problem he had was
>>> they
>>> couldn't get burners under it that would get it hot enough.
>>>
>>> Every year at the NC State Fair they have a cane syrup display up and
>>> running for the entire week.  It's wood fired of course.  That pan is
>>> probably as big or bigger than the one my friend built.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>>
>>>
>>>> Charlie,Wow! 8x16? No wonder he had trouble.
>>>>
>>>> Paul, don't feel bad. I know several people who tried their hand at
>>>> making
>>>> syrup at home with less-than-expected results. I blame it on some of
>>>> those
>>>> "farmette" on-line how-to web sites that post articles w/o ever trying
>>>> the
>>>> operations involved.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bob the pan that my friend built was a big one.  More like 8' x 16'.
>>>>> He
>>>>> didn't do to well making syrup.  He spent all that money on a pan and
>>>>> fixed
>>>>> up and old cane press.  Then he had a crop failure on his cane patch.
>>>>> I
>>>>> don't know if he tried it again the next year or not.  His health
>>>>> turned
>>>>> bad
>>>>> about that time and he has since died after a long fight with cancer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Henry's right ... w/o a sap pan, appropriate firebox and covered
>>>>>> shelter
>>>>>> bldg, you'll be wasting sap. As I recall, our pan was about 5x3. You
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> consider seeing if anyone nearby you is sugaring and review their
>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:23 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you haven't figguered out how/where you are going to boil the sap
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> bother starting.   I learned this the hard way when I was 14.   My
>>>>>>> neighbor had the spouts, and buckets were easy to find.  Nobody had
>>>>>>> anything useful for boiling sap.  We ended up with about 200 gallons
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> sap, and were dumping some for lack of storage!  (I'm not sure how
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> dumped, I think we were collecting 10 gallons a day)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we tried was a hot water bath canner on a barrel wood stove.
>>>>>>> Never
>>>>>>> got hot enough to boil anything despite plenty of dry wood to work
>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>> I was told my friend's parents had tried boiling in the house a few
>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>> before, but the house got all sticky.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't need everything now, but if you don't have a plan and all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> equipment on order, you could be wasting time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roy Morgan <k1lky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Paul Waugh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will try the copper pipe and screw. Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ask around the town. You may find someone who's got buckets full of
>>>>>>>>the made-to-purpose spigots that simply tap into the hole, and who 
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>not planning to use them now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You'll need some buckets, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Note: about one barrel (50 gallons) of sap is needed for a gallon of
>>>>>>>>syrup.  You'll need a big pile of sawmill scraps to feed the fire.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Roy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Roy Morgan
>>>>>>>>k1lky at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>529 Cobb St.
>>>>>>>>Groton NY, 13073
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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