[AT] Good global warming tractor day

[charliehill]

Carl, you and I don't disagree about the need to be good stewards of the 
planet.  I just don't go for the "sky is falling", chicken little approach 
that the politicians are taking.  I can remember well back in the 60's or 
70's when they were worried about the next ice age.  Then they decided that 
if we could just turn all of the CO into CO2 that the plants would be happy 
with the CO2 and all would be well.  That is why we have catalytic 
convertors on our cars and that is a good thing.

We all have our own brand of coolaid to drink.  I just don't like this 
global warming brand and I feel like it is being poured down my throat 
regardless of the facts.

Anyway, enough about it,  I'm about as stressed out as I can stand these 
days.  Let's go for some good old fashioned escapism and talk about 
tractors.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Good global warming tractor day


> Charlie-
> I no longer have working speakers on my now antique computer to listen to
> the clip - but I will forward it to work and listen on Monday.
>
> Yes, "feel" is the operative word because I do not pretend to know how 
> large
> the effect of extra carbon is compared to all the other effects that could
> effect global energy balance.  It is, however, about the only lever we 
> have
> any control over.  We can't stop volcanos, sunspots or continental drift.
> We really are just beginning to learn the overall senitivity of the 
> earth's
> temperature system and the massive melting of the polar caps may just be 
> the
> beginning of the inevitable cycle.  I don't think anyone currently knows 
> how
> to precisely predict all the effects of another 100 ppm of CO2 over the 
> next
> 100 years.  We also do not reliably know how close the system is to 
> tippping
> into unbearable global warming or if that is even a possibility.
>
> We have clear historical evidence of continental drift shutting down the
> flow of energy from the equator to the poles by the ocean's currents and
> this has caused the planet to enter extreme ice ages for millions of 
> years,
> reversed only by massive volcanos and the continents eventually drifting
> apart to restablish the ocean's currents.
>
> Keep in mind that scientific opinion is also for sale.  About 3 years ago
> the scientific community was virtually unanimous that global warming was
> fact and indisputable.  It is not impossible that big business would hire
> scientists to confuse the issue of global warming because carbon offsets 
> and
> reductions are much more expensive than a few dozen scientist's opinions 
> are
> to buy.  This worked well in the past for tobacco and pharmacuticals among
> others.
>
> I know certain atmospheric gasses can reflect heat to earth and the levels
> of those gasses are hisotically high right now.  I can safely say that the
> earth's temperature will rise to some degree because of this.  I do not
> prtend to know how much or if it is even significant compared to all of 
> the
> other things that can effect temperature like cutting down the Amazon
> forest.
> Respectfully submitted for thought only
> Carl
>
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