[AT] Good tractor day(OT)

Mon Mar 2 19:36:10 PST 2009

As we know when trying to pick a good day to work in the field by watching 
the extended weather forecast, even with all the satellites and computer 
models, meteorologists are wrong as much as they're right. Now imagine a 
climatologist trying to give educated guesses based on history as to what 
climate changes will occur over the next thousands of years, and why. If 
you've noticed, it's the meteorologists making the most noise over "global 
warming/climate change."

Bob in CNY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day

> Rob, I'm not trying to be hard to get along with but how can you prove
> Global Warming is a fact when in your very next sentence you say that "the
> earths climate has fluctuated for millions of years and will continue
> whether we're here or not."
>
> I think we agree about the impact or lack there of caused by humans but I
> can't go along with saying something is a fact when no one can prove it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Wilson" <ro.wilson at att.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day
>
>
>> Global warming is a fact or climate change but to have proof humans are
>> the
>> culprit is not provable. The earths climate has fluctuated for millions 
>> of
>> years and will continue whether we're here or not. No proof we are
>> hastening
>> it either.
>> Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Rick Weaver
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:19 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day
>>
>> Aw, guys, all you have to do is look at the photos from decades ago and
>> compare to today, of glaciers, to know that global warming is a fact.
>>
>> However, what I think is quite open for debate is the cause.  The 
>> liberals
>> blame it on people.  I'm not so sure.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Bob McNitt
>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:30 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day
>>
>> Cecil -
>>
>> I'm no fan of the "global warming" or climate change" fanatics' claims,
>> but
>> it would see "something" is going on with the weather of late. There 
>> seems
>> to be too many extremes, not just in North America, but all over the
>> planet.
>>
>> Let's hope it's just a temporary phenomenon and not a long-term trend. If
>> it
>> turns out to be the latter, it will have a major impact on many things,
>> not
>> the least of which will be agriculture.
>>
>> Bob in CNY
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day
>>
>>
>>> Here in Oklahoma we would take any type of moisture.  right now it is
>>> sunny with 35 degrees the North wind is at 23mph gusting to 38.  Wind
>>> chill is 23deg.  32% humidity.  I have lived here for 55 years and I
>>> have never seen wind like we have had in the last 3 years.   The last
>>> rain we had was about 1/2 inch last month.  Before that it  was in
>>> September..
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla.
>>>
>>> charliehill wrote:
>>>> Well we've actually had 3 "snow events".  None of them amounted to much
>>>> at
>>>> my place.  The one that did give us close to an inch was melted and 
>>>> gone
>>>> by
>>>> dark that night.  I was over on I-40 a couple of days later between
>>>> Kennansville and Raleigh and there was snow laying in the shadows along
>>>> the
>>>> hedge rows in lots of places.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It has been a strange weather year.  The snow event you had gave us 
>>>>> the
>>>>> piddling amount.  The forecast for Sunday night now says snow with no
>>>>> accumulation - which usually means we'll have an ice storm then a big
>>>>> snow <g>.
>>>>> In that event Raleigh was pretty well covered and I did see evidence 
>>>>> of
>>>>> snow around Burlington the next day.  Here it was all gone by mid day
>>>>> of
>>>>> the same day.
>>>>> I like one good snow each winter - nice treat and helps replenish the
>>>>> soil moisture but after one I'm done I hope.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>
>>>>> charliehill wrote:
>>>>>> No kidding David, less than half an inch of snow?  We've had more 
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> here.  In fact 45 miles up the road in Greenville and Washington area
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> had about 3 inches in one event.  The weather guys are saying we 
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> an inch or more on Monday.  I hope they are wrong.
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