[AT] Southern Farm show for Al Jones

[charliehill]

Al, when is the Southern Farm show in Raleigh?  Are you going?

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge


> ..And why on EARTH would anybody want one?????
>
> Al
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: <william.neff.powell at comcast.net>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 1/21/2009 1:41:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge
>>
>> What model is the updated version of the Ford 8n?
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>> > To tie this back to tractors, Fiat Group also owns the company that
>> > makes Case IH and New Holland and what remains of Allis. While they
>> > might not have done a lot for Allis, they have kept a LOT of New
> Holland
>> >   and Case IH dealers in business (who keep us supplied with various
>> > bits and pieces for our antique tractors and equipment). Having worked
>> > for a New Holland dealer, I can attest to the real interest they have
> in
>> > building the US market. They even have released an updated version of
>> > the old Ford 8N! (Well, it look like an 8N, even if it is a modern 4WD
>> > compact diesel underneath.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> > > This ought to be interesting, Charlie...
>> > >
>> > > First of all, the deal apparently isn't complete yet.  According to 
>> > > an
>> > > article in WSJ:  "The non-binding deal would involve no cash payment
>> > > by Fiat, and the proposed April closing is contingent on Chrysler
>> > > meeting U.S. government conditions for existing and hoped-for federal
>> > > aid."
>> > >
>> > > What effect will it have on Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep?  Well, this is
>> > > being painted as a barter deal.  Chrysler gets access to Fiat's small
>> > > cars, and Fiat gets access to Chrysler's US distribution network. 
>> > > The
>> > > hoped-for effect is that there will still BE a Dodge, Chrysler, and
>> > > Jeep.  With rose-colored glasses firmly in place, expect to see new
>> > > (and pretty good) small cars at your local ChryCo dealership.  Fiat
>> > > has come a long way since they departed US shores in disgrace many
>> > > years ago.  I don't personally see how this will impact what we know
>> > > as Dodge trucks or Jeeps, again, other than keeping them around.
>> > >
>> > > Lots of problems.  Euro emissions and crash standards are about as
>> > > stringent as ours in round numbers but they are DIFFERENT.  There's a
>> > > bunch of engineering that needs to happen to get Fiat-based cars onto
>> > > US shores.  Timing... couple years perhaps.  What's going to keep
>> > > Chrysler afloat in the meantime?
>> > >
>> > > Steve O.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, charliehill
>> > > <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> I heard yesterday that Fiat is taking controlling interest in Dodge
> in a
>> > >> deal where they get 35% of the company stock in exchange for ZERO
> cash.
>> > >>
>> > >> I wonder what effect that will have on Dodge, Crysler and Jeep as we
> know
>> > >> them?
>> > >>
>> > >> Charlie
>> > >>
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