[AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge

[Al Jones]

..And why on EARTH would anybody want one?????

Al


> [Original Message]
> From: <william.neff.powell at comcast.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 1/21/2009 1:41:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge
>
> What model is the updated version of the Ford 8n? 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> > To tie this back to tractors, Fiat Group also owns the company that 
> > makes Case IH and New Holland and what remains of Allis. While they 
> > might not have done a lot for Allis, they have kept a LOT of New
Holland 
> >   and Case IH dealers in business (who keep us supplied with various 
> > bits and pieces for our antique tractors and equipment). Having worked 
> > for a New Holland dealer, I can attest to the real interest they have
in 
> > building the US market. They even have released an updated version of 
> > the old Ford 8N! (Well, it look like an 8N, even if it is a modern 4WD 
> > compact diesel underneath.)
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > Stephen Offiler wrote:
> > > This ought to be interesting, Charlie...
> > > 
> > > First of all, the deal apparently isn't complete yet.  According to an
> > > article in WSJ:  "The non-binding deal would involve no cash payment
> > > by Fiat, and the proposed April closing is contingent on Chrysler
> > > meeting U.S. government conditions for existing and hoped-for federal
> > > aid."
> > > 
> > > What effect will it have on Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep?  Well, this is
> > > being painted as a barter deal.  Chrysler gets access to Fiat's small
> > > cars, and Fiat gets access to Chrysler's US distribution network.  The
> > > hoped-for effect is that there will still BE a Dodge, Chrysler, and
> > > Jeep.  With rose-colored glasses firmly in place, expect to see new
> > > (and pretty good) small cars at your local ChryCo dealership.  Fiat
> > > has come a long way since they departed US shores in disgrace many
> > > years ago.  I don't personally see how this will impact what we know
> > > as Dodge trucks or Jeeps, again, other than keeping them around.
> > > 
> > > Lots of problems.  Euro emissions and crash standards are about as
> > > stringent as ours in round numbers but they are DIFFERENT.  There's a
> > > bunch of engineering that needs to happen to get Fiat-based cars onto
> > > US shores.  Timing... couple years perhaps.  What's going to keep
> > > Chrysler afloat in the meantime?
> > > 
> > > Steve O.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, charliehill
> > > <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I heard yesterday that Fiat is taking controlling interest in Dodge
in a
> > >> deal where they get 35% of the company stock in exchange for ZERO
cash.
> > >>
> > >> I wonder what effect that will have on Dodge, Crysler and Jeep as we
know
> > >> them?
> > >>
> > >> Charlie
> > >>
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