[AT] Polar Ice Caps

Wed Jan 14 08:40:29 PST 2009

Water, but probably both, remember though that I live quite far from
the gulfstream 6 degrees north of Ralph and some 60 degrees F less
cold :-)

Mattias


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http://www.yr.no/sted/Canada/Saskatchewan/Saskatoon/

2009/1/14 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>:
> Mattias is that the water temp or the air.  I didn't make myself clear
> before I guess.  The water in the gulf stream here is so warm even in the
> winter that the surface air temps in the stream are 20 degs or more higher
> than they are just a few hundred yards after you get out of the stream.  The
> gulf stream is a wonderful "place" that everyone should visit once in their
> life.
>
> There is usually a lot of stuff just floating around there.  Everything from
> Sargaso (sp) sea grass to sheets of plywood that fell off of ships.  I know
> it sounds bad but the effect is that some species of fish lay up just under
> that debris.  Particularly dolphin.  No not Flipper, he's a porpose but the
> fish dolphin otherwise known as Mahi-Mahi.  Their skin is irredescent.
> (sorry about the spelling.  no spell checker) and when you get in a school
> of them close to the surface it is a sight to see.  Not bad eating either
> and it's easy to catch them.  Another one of Gods amazing creatures are the
> flying fish.  I've only seen them once but that day there were thousands of
> them skimming over the surface like little birds.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>
>
> Charlie, I just checked and in the Atlantic outside Norway it's about
> 45-50F in the water right now. You also have to consider that the most
> usual wind here is from the southwest.
>
> Mattias
>
> 2009/1/14 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>:
>> Mattias it's interesting that you mentioned the gulf stream.  It passes
>> really close to the coast here in NC.  It is something that everyone
>> should
>> experience.  It's 29 F here right now.  If I could borrow my friends boat
>> I
>> could drive the 40 minutes to the beach get in his boat and be in the gulf
>> stream in another hour.  By then it might be up to 40 F here if that much.
>> I'm willing to bet you that it would be 60 or 65 out in the gulfstream and
>> just like a warm spring day.  I've been out there fishing in the winter
>> when
>> it was cold, cloudy and dreary on land and hated to come back in, back to
>> the winter.  I'm sure the stream isn't that warm up at your latitude
>> Mattias
>> but I bet even there it makes a big difference.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>
>>
>> When I went to school they said the next iceage is coming. Of course
>> as you all know this is true, it will happen this things goes in
>> cycles and further more we're moving towards the northern pole at the
>> stunning speed of 1cm/year. BTW don't buy any summerhouses at the
>> Mediterranian(s) shore, Africa is moving by the speed of 2cm/year. So
>> the Mediterranian is doomed! I don't believe it will happen the couple
>> of decades so no need to worry.
>>
>> But then we have the global warming (though it felt very distant a
>> week ago or so when the dieslline from the tank froze on my DB950 at
>> -15C, another #¤%# story). If that would cause the Northern pole and a
>> lot of glaciers to melt some people think that could cause the
>> Gulfstream to stop then we would get a climate more like Ralph.
>> Doesn't sound all that cosy but iceage? No.
>>
>> Another problem that might really be a problem in Germany and Poland
>> is that the oceans would raise. Here that wouldn't cause that much
>> problemsa problems because the ground is raising with a speed at
>> 0-9mm/year since the last iceage. Least in the south as Skåne so they
>> will have more problems but they should be careful with building to
>> close to the water anyway due to their erosionproblems.
>>
>> I also saw on TV a few weeks ago that Dutch are abandonning some of
>> their land leaving it back to the water. This because they don't think
>> that they can't keep up with higher flows forever.
>>
>> Mattias
>> 2009/1/14 Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>:
>>> Not to worry Charlie. I have been here before and will likely survive a
>>> few
>>> more winters. We hit +20 on the weekend and it snowed so hard I could
>>> hardly
>>> see across the yard. Snow was melting on the hood of the Cockshutt 40
>>> from
>>> all the heat generated by the hard working Buda six running the hammer
>>> mill
>>> that day. That night I had to install the snowblower to clear a path for
>>> a
>>> stuck car . The moon was so bright that I was working without lights and
>>> it
>>> was plenty warm even at 0 degrees.
>>> Different story today though. -10F and a nasty southeaster blowing the
>>> falling snow. Predictions for worse tomorrow with wind chill factor in
>>> the -40F range.
>>> Re: the heat light on engines, can't say that I have used it as most
>>> engines
>>> here come equipped with block (coolant) heaters. Just plug them in for a
>>> few
>>> hours and they start. I've known people that leave their vehicles plugged
>>> in
>>> 24 hours a day. Must make the power companies happy but if you need a
>>> vehicle ready to go at short notice it is almost necessary.
>>> What I need now is a block heater for my air compressor. The big Coleman
>>> 6
>>> hp refused to start today in the unheated shed. I've got an old car
>>> interior
>>> warmer that I plan to plug in and see if I can persuade it to turn over
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We all know how that thar global warming works different from what people
>>> might think, Charlie.  Part of the reason I was thinking the ice cap may
>>> be
>>> attacking our friend Ralph. It appears like the carbon credits worked
>>> much
>>> faster than expected.
>>>
>>>> From: charliehill at embarqmail.com
>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:24:10 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>>
>>>> With all the talk about global warming, I heard yesterday on the radio
>>>> that
>>>> Russia and Germany are predicting and preparing for another ICE AGE.
>>>> Germany is apparently predicting that some of their northern regions
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> un-inhabitable within the next couple of decades.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know.  Just what I heard.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can not help notice that Ralph is being pretty quiet of late and
>>>> wonder
>>>> if
>>>> Lipton is currently under the polar ice cap.  It looks like a modest -23
>>>> F
>>>> for tonight but warming some by Thursday.  Are you keeping up with it
>>>> Ralph?
>>>>
>>>> Charlie in WNY
>>>>
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