[AT] Polar Ice Caps

Wed Jan 14 07:49:39 PST 2009

Mattias is that the water temp or the air.  I didn't make myself clear 
before I guess.  The water in the gulf stream here is so warm even in the 
winter that the surface air temps in the stream are 20 degs or more higher 
than they are just a few hundred yards after you get out of the stream.  The 
gulf stream is a wonderful "place" that everyone should visit once in their 
life.

There is usually a lot of stuff just floating around there.  Everything from 
Sargaso (sp) sea grass to sheets of plywood that fell off of ships.  I know 
it sounds bad but the effect is that some species of fish lay up just under 
that debris.  Particularly dolphin.  No not Flipper, he's a porpose but the 
fish dolphin otherwise known as Mahi-Mahi.  Their skin is irredescent. 
(sorry about the spelling.  no spell checker) and when you get in a school 
of them close to the surface it is a sight to see.  Not bad eating either 
and it's easy to catch them.  Another one of Gods amazing creatures are the 
flying fish.  I've only seen them once but that day there were thousands of 
them skimming over the surface like little birds.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps

Charlie, I just checked and in the Atlantic outside Norway it's about
45-50F in the water right now. You also have to consider that the most
usual wind here is from the southwest.

Mattias

2009/1/14 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>:
> Mattias it's interesting that you mentioned the gulf stream.  It passes
> really close to the coast here in NC.  It is something that everyone 
> should
> experience.  It's 29 F here right now.  If I could borrow my friends boat 
> I
> could drive the 40 minutes to the beach get in his boat and be in the gulf
> stream in another hour.  By then it might be up to 40 F here if that much.
> I'm willing to bet you that it would be 60 or 65 out in the gulfstream and
> just like a warm spring day.  I've been out there fishing in the winter 
> when
> it was cold, cloudy and dreary on land and hated to come back in, back to
> the winter.  I'm sure the stream isn't that warm up at your latitude 
> Mattias
> but I bet even there it makes a big difference.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>
>
> When I went to school they said the next iceage is coming. Of course
> as you all know this is true, it will happen this things goes in
> cycles and further more we're moving towards the northern pole at the
> stunning speed of 1cm/year. BTW don't buy any summerhouses at the
> Mediterranian(s) shore, Africa is moving by the speed of 2cm/year. So
> the Mediterranian is doomed! I don't believe it will happen the couple
> of decades so no need to worry.
>
> But then we have the global warming (though it felt very distant a
> week ago or so when the dieslline from the tank froze on my DB950 at
> -15C, another #¤%# story). If that would cause the Northern pole and a
> lot of glaciers to melt some people think that could cause the
> Gulfstream to stop then we would get a climate more like Ralph.
> Doesn't sound all that cosy but iceage? No.
>
> Another problem that might really be a problem in Germany and Poland
> is that the oceans would raise. Here that wouldn't cause that much
> problemsa problems because the ground is raising with a speed at
> 0-9mm/year since the last iceage. Least in the south as Skåne so they
> will have more problems but they should be careful with building to
> close to the water anyway due to their erosionproblems.
>
> I also saw on TV a few weeks ago that Dutch are abandonning some of
> their land leaving it back to the water. This because they don't think
> that they can't keep up with higher flows forever.
>
> Mattias
> 2009/1/14 Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>:
>> Not to worry Charlie. I have been here before and will likely survive a
>> few
>> more winters. We hit +20 on the weekend and it snowed so hard I could
>> hardly
>> see across the yard. Snow was melting on the hood of the Cockshutt 40 
>> from
>> all the heat generated by the hard working Buda six running the hammer
>> mill
>> that day. That night I had to install the snowblower to clear a path for 
>> a
>> stuck car . The moon was so bright that I was working without lights and
>> it
>> was plenty warm even at 0 degrees.
>> Different story today though. -10F and a nasty southeaster blowing the
>> falling snow. Predictions for worse tomorrow with wind chill factor in
>> the -40F range.
>> Re: the heat light on engines, can't say that I have used it as most
>> engines
>> here come equipped with block (coolant) heaters. Just plug them in for a
>> few
>> hours and they start. I've known people that leave their vehicles plugged
>> in
>> 24 hours a day. Must make the power companies happy but if you need a
>> vehicle ready to go at short notice it is almost necessary.
>> What I need now is a block heater for my air compressor. The big Coleman 
>> 6
>> hp refused to start today in the unheated shed. I've got an old car
>> interior
>> warmer that I plan to plug in and see if I can persuade it to turn over
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>
>>
>>
>> We all know how that thar global warming works different from what people
>> might think, Charlie.  Part of the reason I was thinking the ice cap may
>> be
>> attacking our friend Ralph. It appears like the carbon credits worked 
>> much
>> faster than expected.
>>
>>> From: charliehill at embarqmail.com
>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:24:10 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>
>>> With all the talk about global warming, I heard yesterday on the radio
>>> that
>>> Russia and Germany are predicting and preparing for another ICE AGE.
>>> Germany is apparently predicting that some of their northern regions 
>>> will
>>> be
>>> un-inhabitable within the next couple of decades.
>>>
>>> I don't know.  Just what I heard.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:55 PM
>>> Subject: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can not help notice that Ralph is being pretty quiet of late and 
>>> wonder
>>> if
>>> Lipton is currently under the polar ice cap.  It looks like a modest -23
>>> F
>>> for tonight but warming some by Thursday.  Are you keeping up with it
>>> Ralph?
>>>
>>> Charlie in WNY
>>>
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