[AT] MF 65 LP tractor need hyd pump info

[Cecil Bearden]

Massey ferguson belt pulley was an attachment that bolted on over the 
PTO shaft and the belt pulley was behind the driver.  If I did not need 
the PTO for a mower etc. When the loader was attached, then I could use 
a PTO hyd pump....  I have got to make this a professional looking 
installation also.  I looked at that power steering for tractors 
website, but like most websites, it tells nothing.
Cecil in OKla

charliehill wrote:
> Cecil is there a belt pulley drive on the tractor?  I've got a PTO drive 
> pump that came with a backhoe attachement that I plan to mount on the belt 
> pulley drive of one of my D-14's.  That way I can run the backhoe and also 
> have hydraulic capability for a loader or whatever when not using the 
> backhoe.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] MF 65 LP tractor need hyd pump info
> 
> 
>> I have 5 junk combines around here that I could cannibalize a pump from.
>>  However, there is no room on a MF65 LP to belt drive a pump.  It would
>> have to have a rear exit exhaust manifold and reroute the air cleaner
>> pipe to give enough clearance on the right side.  Then you would have to
>> fashion 2 idlers for the back side of the belt to give the pump and the
>> generator and the fan enough belt contact to drive...  If I could drive
>> a double pump or a larger pump with a flow divider from the camshaft
>> drive for the power steering, then I could drive the loader pump and
>> have some real movement in the loader.  3 gpm off the transmission pump
>> is just not enough to really be efficient.  I can put a front pulley
>> shaft drive on it, but then I have to build a guard to protect the pump
>> and also have to remove the pump and drive to change the fan belt,
>> another pain in the butt.  Continental had many types of auxillary
>> drives on their other engines so I thought maybe the G176 in the 65
>> could handle a 12 gallon pump....
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>>
>> Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I had a MF65 on LP follow me home a couple of nights ago.  It has issues
>>>> with the front axle support that mounts to the engine.  The first time
>>>> in 40 years that I have seen one that is cracked.  It doesn't appear to
>>>> have ever had a loader mounted.  It must have had a bad wreck or fall...
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to install a hyd pump to put a front end loader on it if I
>>>> ever get a front support found..  Some forklift pumps mount on the
>>>> engine and drive off the camshaft.  They use a continental engine.  This
>>>> tractor has power steering.  Could I mount a hydraulic pump off the
>>>> camshaft drive for the power steering pump and run a loader and the
>>>> power steering.  I could always install a flow divider, or a double pump
>>>> to get the power steering...
>>>>
>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ================================
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ceci:
>>>
>>> I would probably just pull a pump, tank and valve off of a self
>>> propelled combine and use those. Many even have usable almost
>>> universal pump mounting brackets. Any pump that will lift a 4 or 6 row
>>> corn head should handle about any loader.
>>> Maybe MF or somebody else even had one to fit that engine if it was
>>> ever used on a combine.
>>> -
>>> I wonder if maybe it was used in tractor pulling? I have seen those
>>> things dropped so hard that front axles break completely out from
>>> under them. I can't recall just how our MF-65 was built in that area
>>> but I wonder if the existing parts could be repaired by welding and
>>> built up stronger than original? I have been known to add a good bit
>>> of heavy steel to a once broken casting that bridges out beyond the
>>> break area sometimes using a bunch of cap screws through the heavy
>>> steel into tapped holes in solid parts of the casting.
>>> I was going to put a loader on a Farmall 400 with wide front (then
>>> changed my mind) but once while I had the front axle out from under it
>>> I welded a truss type support under the axle at the pivot to spread
>>> the weight farther out on the axle.
>>> Years ago we broke a lift arm on my MF-165 and rather than replace it
>>> we just welded it and added another piece above it to span the weak
>>> area. It works perfectly and has for probably 30 years.
>>> A "good" repair can often be many times stronger than the original part.
>>> I mention this generally because I know that you already do stuff like 
>>> that.
>>>
>>>
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