[AT] MF 65 LP tractor need hyd pump info

[charliehill]

Cecil is there a belt pulley drive on the tractor?  I've got a PTO drive 
pump that came with a backhoe attachement that I plan to mount on the belt 
pulley drive of one of my D-14's.  That way I can run the backhoe and also 
have hydraulic capability for a loader or whatever when not using the 
backhoe.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] MF 65 LP tractor need hyd pump info


>I have 5 junk combines around here that I could cannibalize a pump from.
>  However, there is no room on a MF65 LP to belt drive a pump.  It would
> have to have a rear exit exhaust manifold and reroute the air cleaner
> pipe to give enough clearance on the right side.  Then you would have to
> fashion 2 idlers for the back side of the belt to give the pump and the
> generator and the fan enough belt contact to drive...  If I could drive
> a double pump or a larger pump with a flow divider from the camshaft
> drive for the power steering, then I could drive the loader pump and
> have some real movement in the loader.  3 gpm off the transmission pump
> is just not enough to really be efficient.  I can put a front pulley
> shaft drive on it, but then I have to build a guard to protect the pump
> and also have to remove the pump and drive to change the fan belt,
> another pain in the butt.  Continental had many types of auxillary
> drives on their other engines so I thought maybe the G176 in the 65
> could handle a 12 gallon pump....
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
> Indiana Robinson wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> I had a MF65 on LP follow me home a couple of nights ago.  It has issues
>>> with the front axle support that mounts to the engine.  The first time
>>> in 40 years that I have seen one that is cracked.  It doesn't appear to
>>> have ever had a loader mounted.  It must have had a bad wreck or fall...
>>>
>>> I am trying to install a hyd pump to put a front end loader on it if I
>>> ever get a front support found..  Some forklift pumps mount on the
>>> engine and drive off the camshaft.  They use a continental engine.  This
>>> tractor has power steering.  Could I mount a hydraulic pump off the
>>> camshaft drive for the power steering pump and run a loader and the
>>> power steering.  I could always install a flow divider, or a double pump
>>> to get the power steering...
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>> _______________________________________________
>> ================================
>>
>>
>> Hi Ceci:
>>
>> I would probably just pull a pump, tank and valve off of a self
>> propelled combine and use those. Many even have usable almost
>> universal pump mounting brackets. Any pump that will lift a 4 or 6 row
>> corn head should handle about any loader.
>> Maybe MF or somebody else even had one to fit that engine if it was
>> ever used on a combine.
>> -
>> I wonder if maybe it was used in tractor pulling? I have seen those
>> things dropped so hard that front axles break completely out from
>> under them. I can't recall just how our MF-65 was built in that area
>> but I wonder if the existing parts could be repaired by welding and
>> built up stronger than original? I have been known to add a good bit
>> of heavy steel to a once broken casting that bridges out beyond the
>> break area sometimes using a bunch of cap screws through the heavy
>> steel into tapped holes in solid parts of the casting.
>> I was going to put a loader on a Farmall 400 with wide front (then
>> changed my mind) but once while I had the front axle out from under it
>> I welded a truss type support under the axle at the pivot to spread
>> the weight farther out on the axle.
>> Years ago we broke a lift arm on my MF-165 and rather than replace it
>> we just welded it and added another piece above it to span the weak
>> area. It works perfectly and has for probably 30 years.
>> A "good" repair can often be many times stronger than the original part.
>> I mention this generally because I know that you already do stuff like 
>> that.
>>
>>
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