[AT] New 8N/Now hay, coastal bermuda

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon Feb 23 06:20:16 PST 2009 

Profitable????  We get about 3  1000lb bales per acre/ cutting.  It is 
fertilized  and sprayed.  The fertilizer and spray cost is about $20 per 
bale.  2 cuttings a year so far. However, we are closing out our 400 
bales of 2007 hay at $25 per bale because the net wrap will not last 
another year....  It is Tifton and Midland bermuda.  Personally I like a 
good quality prairie grass for hay.  It has a mixture of many grasses 
etc and I believe it is a better quality forage.

Cecil in OKla

charliehill wrote:
> How much acreage of coastal bermuda does it take to be profitable?  How many 
> bails per acre do you get per cutting and how many days between cuttings (on 
> average).  I know it varies by region, that's why I said days between 
> cuttings instead of cutting per year.
> 
> I've got about 40 to 45 acres I could put in coastal and it is all land that 
> would do very good for that use.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
> 
> 
> I was looking for one of those bi-directional tractors when a guy was
> supposed to buy my 2-105 White.  He took too long in deciding and I
> found that I had priced the White for a lot less than I could replace it
> with a smaller tractor with a cab for.  So I ended up with a 7600 Ford,
> 4wd and no cab but it does have a loader.
> 
> Last week I found a 7030 Allis and brought it home.  It was delivered in
> 1974 to the farm I have been baling Bermuda grass on.  Then a local guy
> bought it and farmed a place about 10 miles away, then sold it to a
> local trader and he put it on Craigs list and I was the first one to
> find it.   It needs a PTO stub shaft.  The one on it is sheared off!!
> 
> Then yesterday I went about 220 miles East of here and bought a NH 648
> round baler.  Pulled it back home, about a 4 hour trip back...  It has
> been shedded, but not really maintained very well.
> 
> So, I guess I am ready to bale hay this summer.  Funny thing.  It is the
> driest I have ever seen it.  No snow to speak of, shirt sleeve weather
> in February.  Hope the drought is not here.  If so, I am really in deep ..
> 
> Cecil in oKla
> 
> charliehill wrote:
>> Yep I understand.  However, a lot of the things we don't like about todays
>> tractors and trucks for that matter have arisen out of gov't regs.  I'm 
>> not
>> saying they aren't sometimes necessary or sometimes advantageous but it's
>> really hard, these days, to make something simple and trouble free.
>>
>> I don't know much about the New Holland equipment but I've got to say, 
>> from
>> what I've seen of their new stuff I kind of like it.  A local turf farmer
>> has a couple of new NH tractors and they look pretty smart and have a lot 
>> of
>> HP in a small package.  Also, I saw a NH up in Maryland at Chrismas that 
>> was
>> about as slick a rig as I've seen lately.  It was a farm tractor of 
>> probably
>> 100+ HP on a fairly large frame but the seat was turned around backwards.
>> The whold back of the cab was a big sheet of glass with a big windshield
>> wiper.  It was set up with a huge snowplow and had joy stick controls on
>> both arm rests.  It would be a pleasure to clear snow in that rig.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>
>>
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> I agree.  I was thinking more of one of the caseIH Farmall compacts (I 
>>> say
>>> "compact," I think they have a line of even larger Farmalls on the market
>>> now) with say, H-styled sheetmetal (plastic) on it.
>>>
>>> The N series Fords were nice, in their day.  It took JD and IH to perfect
>>> the concept of the small, two-three plow tractor with decent hydraulics,
>>> more HP and operator comfort, etc.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Date: 2/22/2009 6:50:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>>
>>>> Al, I'd be the last to kick a Farmall A.  They are great tractors for
>>> what
>>>> they do.  However, I'd be willing to bet the gov't wouldn't let you 
>>>> build
>>>> one today.  They are inherently unstable.  Not in the hands of someone
>>> that
>>>> knows what they are doing (including small boys when well trained) but
>>> can
>>>> you imagine the roll-overs and law suits if you built one new and put it
>>> in
>>>> the hands of a yuppie with a horse farm?  The same applies to a lot of
>>> our
>>>> old iron including all of the 1 row high crop tractors and the offset
>>> Ford.
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have never been a real big fan of the N-series Fords to begin with,
>>>>> and
>>>>> as far as this "new" one goes, to borrow a line from Smokey and the
>>>>> Bandit:
>>>>> anybody that would own something like that would go to a minister's
>>>>> funeral
>>>>> dressed in feathers!!
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be interesting if CNH would try something similar with their
>>>>> Farmall line--making a model with A/B/C/H/M styling, but you can't
>>> improve
>>>>> on perfection!
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>>> From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Date: 2/21/2009 3:30:31 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie, just a wild guess but I'd bet you could add another zero to
>>> that
>>>>>> $600  and multiply by 4 and still not have enough to buy that new
>>> little
>>>>>> Ford. Wonder if it will still be as popular as the old Ns are now at
>>>>>> 60
>>>>>> years of age? Those little old tractors bring good money at the farm
>>>>>> auctions now, somewhere in the 1 to 2,000 dollar price range.
>>>>>> That three point hitch on the new one would possibly be strong enough
>>> to
>>>>>> lift the old 8N off the ground at 2800 pounds capacity.
>>>>>> Could this be a new trend, using well known old names to sell new
>>>>> tractors?
>>>>>> I think CNH did it with the McCormick name recently, using it on their
>>>>> line
>>>>>> of Landini tractors. Our good old Canadian built Versatile tractors
>>> went
>>>>>> through quite a series of name changes over the years but have
>>>>>> recently
>>>>> come
>>>>>> back to the original Versatile name even though the new owner is a
>>>>>> (Russian?) based one, Rostselmash. These however, are still a true
>>> North
>>>>>> American built tractor.
>>>>>> Whats next, a Mahindra tractor in Cockshutt 40 sheet metal? I bet
>>> they'd
>>>>>> sell a few.
>>>>>> Charlie, if I have trouble getting my new 8N across the border I might
>>>>> have
>>>>>> to park it at your place for a while. Thanks for the offer. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First thoughts!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What can be seen of the 3 pt. hitch looks like the old 8n.  I do not
>>> see
>>>>>> much else though.
>>>>>> The old 8n was somewhere around $600 usd new.  Is this one the same
>>>>> price??
>>>>>> ("I'll bet"   Grin)
>>>>>> Even so, Ralph, if you have yours shipped to me, I will test drive it
>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>> couple of years and not charge for my time.  Best offer that I have
>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie V. in WNY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:12:20 -0600
>>>>>>> From: alfg at sasktel.net
>>>>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [AT] New 8N
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heres an interesting item that turned up in this week's Western
>>>>>>> Producer
>>>>>>> magazine. It appears that Ford/New Holland/CNH or whatever the
>>>>>>> powers
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> be now are using the old 8N's popularity to try and sell a few new
>>>>>>> tractors.
>>>>>>> This one does bear a passing resemblance to the old 8N. Have a look
>>> at
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> new "Boomer 8N"
>>>>>>> www.the8n.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>>>>>
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