[AT] New 8N

Sun Feb 22 17:32:05 PST 2009

I was looking for one of those bi-directional tractors when a guy was 
supposed to buy my 2-105 White.  He took too long in deciding and I 
found that I had priced the White for a lot less than I could replace it 
with a smaller tractor with a cab for.  So I ended up with a 7600 Ford, 
4wd and no cab but it does have a loader.

Last week I found a 7030 Allis and brought it home.  It was delivered in 
1974 to the farm I have been baling Bermuda grass on.  Then a local guy 
bought it and farmed a place about 10 miles away, then sold it to a 
local trader and he put it on Craigs list and I was the first one to 
find it.   It needs a PTO stub shaft.  The one on it is sheared off!!

Then yesterday I went about 220 miles East of here and bought a NH 648 
round baler.  Pulled it back home, about a 4 hour trip back...  It has 
been shedded, but not really maintained very well.

So, I guess I am ready to bale hay this summer.  Funny thing.  It is the 
driest I have ever seen it.  No snow to speak of, shirt sleeve weather 
in February.  Hope the drought is not here.  If so, I am really in deep ..

Cecil in oKla

charliehill wrote:
> Yep I understand.  However, a lot of the things we don't like about todays 
> tractors and trucks for that matter have arisen out of gov't regs.  I'm not 
> saying they aren't sometimes necessary or sometimes advantageous but it's 
> really hard, these days, to make something simple and trouble free.
> 
> I don't know much about the New Holland equipment but I've got to say, from 
> what I've seen of their new stuff I kind of like it.  A local turf farmer 
> has a couple of new NH tractors and they look pretty smart and have a lot of 
> HP in a small package.  Also, I saw a NH up in Maryland at Chrismas that was 
> about as slick a rig as I've seen lately.  It was a farm tractor of probably 
> 100+ HP on a fairly large frame but the seat was turned around backwards. 
> The whold back of the cab was a big sheet of glass with a big windshield 
> wiper.  It was set up with a huge snowplow and had joy stick controls on 
> both arm rests.  It would be a pleasure to clear snow in that rig.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
> 
> 
>> Charlie,
>>
>> I agree.  I was thinking more of one of the caseIH Farmall compacts (I say
>> "compact," I think they have a line of even larger Farmalls on the market
>> now) with say, H-styled sheetmetal (plastic) on it.
>>
>> The N series Fords were nice, in their day.  It took JD and IH to perfect
>> the concept of the small, two-three plow tractor with decent hydraulics,
>> more HP and operator comfort, etc.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Date: 2/22/2009 6:50:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>
>>> Al, I'd be the last to kick a Farmall A.  They are great tractors for
>> what
>>> they do.  However, I'd be willing to bet the gov't wouldn't let you build
>>> one today.  They are inherently unstable.  Not in the hands of someone
>> that
>>> knows what they are doing (including small boys when well trained) but
>> can
>>> you imagine the roll-overs and law suits if you built one new and put it
>> in
>>> the hands of a yuppie with a horse farm?  The same applies to a lot of
>> our
>>> old iron including all of the 1 row high crop tractors and the offset
>> Ford.
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have never been a real big fan of the N-series Fords to begin with, 
>>>> and
>>>> as far as this "new" one goes, to borrow a line from Smokey and the
>>>> Bandit:
>>>> anybody that would own something like that would go to a minister's
>>>> funeral
>>>> dressed in feathers!!
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting if CNH would try something similar with their
>>>> Farmall line--making a model with A/B/C/H/M styling, but you can't
>> improve
>>>> on perfection!
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>> From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Date: 2/21/2009 3:30:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie, just a wild guess but I'd bet you could add another zero to
>> that
>>>>> $600  and multiply by 4 and still not have enough to buy that new
>> little
>>>>> Ford. Wonder if it will still be as popular as the old Ns are now at 
>>>>> 60
>>>>> years of age? Those little old tractors bring good money at the farm
>>>>> auctions now, somewhere in the 1 to 2,000 dollar price range.
>>>>> That three point hitch on the new one would possibly be strong enough
>> to
>>>>> lift the old 8N off the ground at 2800 pounds capacity.
>>>>> Could this be a new trend, using well known old names to sell new
>>>> tractors?
>>>>> I think CNH did it with the McCormick name recently, using it on their
>>>> line
>>>>> of Landini tractors. Our good old Canadian built Versatile tractors
>> went
>>>>> through quite a series of name changes over the years but have 
>>>>> recently
>>>> come
>>>>> back to the original Versatile name even though the new owner is a
>>>>> (Russian?) based one, Rostselmash. These however, are still a true
>> North
>>>>> American built tractor.
>>>>> Whats next, a Mahindra tractor in Cockshutt 40 sheet metal? I bet
>> they'd
>>>>> sell a few.
>>>>> Charlie, if I have trouble getting my new 8N across the border I might
>>>> have
>>>>> to park it at your place for a while. Thanks for the offer. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> First thoughts!
>>>>>
>>>>> What can be seen of the 3 pt. hitch looks like the old 8n.  I do not
>> see
>>>>> much else though.
>>>>> The old 8n was somewhere around $600 usd new.  Is this one the same
>>>> price??
>>>>> ("I'll bet"   Grin)
>>>>> Even so, Ralph, if you have yours shipped to me, I will test drive it
>> for
>>>> a
>>>>> couple of years and not charge for my time.  Best offer that I have
>>>>> today.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie V. in WNY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:12:20 -0600
>>>>>> From: alfg at sasktel.net
>>>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>> Subject: [AT] New 8N
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heres an interesting item that turned up in this week's Western
>>>>>> Producer
>>>>>> magazine. It appears that Ford/New Holland/CNH or whatever the 
>>>>>> powers
>>>> that
>>>>>> be now are using the old 8N's popularity to try and sell a few new
>>>>>> tractors.
>>>>>> This one does bear a passing resemblance to the old 8N. Have a look
>> at
>>>> the
>>>>>> new "Boomer 8N"
>>>>>> www.the8n.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>>>>
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