[AT] New 8N

Sun Feb 22 07:49:26 PST 2009

Yep I understand.  However, a lot of the things we don't like about todays 
tractors and trucks for that matter have arisen out of gov't regs.  I'm not 
saying they aren't sometimes necessary or sometimes advantageous but it's 
really hard, these days, to make something simple and trouble free.

I don't know much about the New Holland equipment but I've got to say, from 
what I've seen of their new stuff I kind of like it.  A local turf farmer 
has a couple of new NH tractors and they look pretty smart and have a lot of 
HP in a small package.  Also, I saw a NH up in Maryland at Chrismas that was 
about as slick a rig as I've seen lately.  It was a farm tractor of probably 
100+ HP on a fairly large frame but the seat was turned around backwards. 
The whold back of the cab was a big sheet of glass with a big windshield 
wiper.  It was set up with a huge snowplow and had joy stick controls on 
both arm rests.  It would be a pleasure to clear snow in that rig.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N

> Charlie,
>
> I agree.  I was thinking more of one of the caseIH Farmall compacts (I say
> "compact," I think they have a line of even larger Farmalls on the market
> now) with say, H-styled sheetmetal (plastic) on it.
>
> The N series Fords were nice, in their day.  It took JD and IH to perfect
> the concept of the small, two-three plow tractor with decent hydraulics,
> more HP and operator comfort, etc.
>
> Al
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 2/22/2009 6:50:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>
>> Al, I'd be the last to kick a Farmall A.  They are great tractors for
> what
>> they do.  However, I'd be willing to bet the gov't wouldn't let you build
>> one today.  They are inherently unstable.  Not in the hands of someone
> that
>> knows what they are doing (including small boys when well trained) but
> can
>> you imagine the roll-overs and law suits if you built one new and put it
> in
>> the hands of a yuppie with a horse farm?  The same applies to a lot of
> our
>> old iron including all of the 1 row high crop tractors and the offset
> Ford.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>>
>>
>> >I have never been a real big fan of the N-series Fords to begin with, 
>> >and
>> > as far as this "new" one goes, to borrow a line from Smokey and the
>> > Bandit:
>> > anybody that would own something like that would go to a minister's
>> > funeral
>> > dressed in feathers!!
>> >
>> > It would be interesting if CNH would try something similar with their
>> > Farmall line--making a model with A/B/C/H/M styling, but you can't
> improve
>> > on perfection!
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
>> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Date: 2/21/2009 3:30:31 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>> >>
>> >> Charlie, just a wild guess but I'd bet you could add another zero to
> that
>> >> $600  and multiply by 4 and still not have enough to buy that new
> little
>> >> Ford. Wonder if it will still be as popular as the old Ns are now at 
>> >> 60
>> >> years of age? Those little old tractors bring good money at the farm
>> >> auctions now, somewhere in the 1 to 2,000 dollar price range.
>> >> That three point hitch on the new one would possibly be strong enough
> to
>> >> lift the old 8N off the ground at 2800 pounds capacity.
>> >> Could this be a new trend, using well known old names to sell new
>> > tractors?
>> >> I think CNH did it with the McCormick name recently, using it on their
>> > line
>> >> of Landini tractors. Our good old Canadian built Versatile tractors
> went
>> >> through quite a series of name changes over the years but have 
>> >> recently
>> > come
>> >> back to the original Versatile name even though the new owner is a
>> >> (Russian?) based one, Rostselmash. These however, are still a true
> North
>> >> American built tractor.
>> >> Whats next, a Mahindra tractor in Cockshutt 40 sheet metal? I bet
> they'd
>> >> sell a few.
>> >> Charlie, if I have trouble getting my new 8N across the border I might
>> > have
>> >> to park it at your place for a while. Thanks for the offer. :-)
>> >>
>> >> Ralph in Sask.
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>> >> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] New 8N
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> First thoughts!
>> >>
>> >> What can be seen of the 3 pt. hitch looks like the old 8n.  I do not
> see
>> >> much else though.
>> >> The old 8n was somewhere around $600 usd new.  Is this one the same
>> > price??
>> >> ("I'll bet"   Grin)
>> >> Even so, Ralph, if you have yours shipped to me, I will test drive it
> for
>> > a
>> >> couple of years and not charge for my time.  Best offer that I have
>> >> today.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Charlie V. in WNY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:12:20 -0600
>> >> > From: alfg at sasktel.net
>> >> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >> > Subject: [AT] New 8N
>> >> >
>> >> > Heres an interesting item that turned up in this week's Western
>> >> > Producer
>> >> > magazine. It appears that Ford/New Holland/CNH or whatever the 
>> >> > powers
>> > that
>> >> > be now are using the old 8N's popularity to try and sell a few new
>> >> > tractors.
>> >> > This one does bear a passing resemblance to the old 8N. Have a look
> at
>> > the
>> >> > new "Boomer 8N"
>> >> > www.the8n.com
>> >> >
>> >> > Ralph in Sask.
>> >> >
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