[AT] Case D
Herbert Metz
metz-h.b at mindspring.com
Tue Dec 29 17:42:44 PST 2009
Ron,
Woops; I am not sure of what year Case went from flanged-bolted axle to
sliding axle adjustment. Gene probably knows?
I do know I used to moan (to myself) that had Dad waited one more year
before trading, we would of had all of those features on our new tractor.
Herb
[Original Message]
> From: Ron Cook <rlcook at longlines.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 12/29/2009 10:34:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Case D
>
> Herb,
> I do believe it was later than 38. I would guess more like 40-41.
> It was streamlined and orange and did have starter and lights. Started
> with the crank mostly, though. It did have a road gear, but not very
> fast as I recall. Maybe 9 or 10 mph. I had a pair of chrome single bar
> flipper hubcaps on it. They flashed pretty good in road gear. You
> described the rear wheels/spacers as it was equipped. This old girl had
> knobby tires on the rear and I don't recall the size, but I would guess
> 38". It was never used for any row-crop work, so we didn't change
> anything. It was used for some disking and harrowing and manure
> spreader duty. During silo filling it was used on the belt powered
> blower until its demise. That tractor was probably around the farm for
> the period of 1954-6. No one liked it at our place. It was replaced
> with a John Deere 70. The 70 went on the silage cutter and the M
> Farmall moved from the cutter to the blower. The wheel spacers were
> around for the next 30 years at least. Used as weight on a chain to
> hold a gate shut. I haven't seen them now in a long time. I bet the
> iron guys got them.
>
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
>
> Herbert Metz wrote:
> > Gene, your summary on Case (letter) models is appreciated; and will be
> > saved.
> > Ron, my opinion is your Dads tractor was a 1938 charcoal gray or
earlier,
> > because that was the last year before 1939 Case orange/flambeau red with
> > electric lights, starter, etc, with adjustable rear axles, and extra
> > gearing/road gear and elevating the operator out of the dirt, etc.
Farmall
> > and JD had made similar changes a couple years earlier.
> > Yes, the rear wheel spacers were 12"? and the wheel dishes were cupped
4"?.
> > And each spacer used six bolts on each end (a lot of big bolts). The
> > dishes were cast and the tires were filled with water. They were
difficult
> > to maneuver when changing rear wheel spacing.
> > We had a 1938 CC Case (three plow, nfe). Our dislike about the wheel
> > brakes is they were not as strong as IHC or JD, and the approx 0.040"
x 2"
> > metal strap (that brake bands were riveted to) were vulnerable if
> > aggressively used. Likewise the cast ends that straps were secured to.
> > In mid 1940's Dad bought a factory cast adjustable wfe (Case orange
color);
> > this sure improved conditions for the tractor operator while cultivating
> > row crop. The front wheels would miss the row crop but not have to go
on
> > the big ridge between rows of row crop; they would just clear the row
crop,
> > yet fit along the edge of the furrow.
> > Somewhere I have some pix pulling a 10' tandem disc with all wheels set
at
> > 84" O.C. (for sledding wheatland ridges). Sorta reminds one of a two
tone
> > grandaddy longlegs spider.
> > In early 1950's a Ford tractor assumed the rowcrop duties. In late
1950's
> > a wfe Farmall Super M assumed the three row wheatland duties.
> > Herb
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Ron Cook <rlcook at longlines.com>
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Date: 12/29/2009 1:23:22 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Case D
> >>
> >> The DC my Dad had did not have adjustable rear axles. It had wheel
> >> spacers and dished cast centers. Chicken roost steering narrow front,
> >> hand clutch and turning brakes that had round pedals that went near up
> >> and down. Danged unhandy tractor for a kid to operate I'll tell you.
I
> >> was very happy when it lost a rod bearing blowing ensilage. It left
the
> >> farm never to be seen again. I have never noticed another exactly
like
> >> it. I do not know what year it was built.
> >>
> >> A neighbor wants to sell me his SC projects. I keep thinking of that
> >> old DC.
> >>
> >> Ron Cook
> >> Salix, IA
> >>
> >> Gene Dotson wrote:
> >>
> >>> A DC-3 and SC-3 Can be equipped with single front, dual wheel
front
> >>>
> > or
> >
> >>> adjustable wide front. The front wheels are always in front of the
> >>>
> > tractor
> >
> >>> frame. A SC-4 and DC-4 will be non adjustable front and will be
mounted
> >>> below the radiator, making a short wheelbase tractor. Rear wheels on
DC
> >>>
> > and
> >
> >>> SC were 38 inch rim size while S and D tractors were on 26 inch
rubber.
> >>>
> > The
> >
> >>> D and S I have both have turning brakes and were an option. As a
matter
> >>>
> > of
> >
> >>> fact, all the Case tractors I have have turning brakes. Only exception
> >>>
> > was
> >
> >>> the 1934 C and it is no longer here.
> >>>
> >>> Gene
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jim & Lyn Evans" <jevans at evanstoys.com>
> >>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> >>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:38 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Case D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> A C stands for Cultivator. It was the row crop version and had
> >>>>
> > adjustable
> >
> >>>> rear wheel tread and 39" rims. A DC3 was a DC with narrow front
end.
> >>>>
> > A
> >
> >>>> DC4
> >>>> was a DC with a non adjustable wide front end. This front end was
very
> >>>> similar to the front end on a D, only taller for the taller rear
> >>>>
> > tires.
> >
> >>>> A
> >>>> DC3 could also be equipped with an adjustable wide front end.
> >>>>
> > Actually,
> >
> >>>> by
> >>>> changing the front mounts (4 bolts or so), you can change a DC3 to
DC4
> >>>>
> > and
> >
> >>>> back. This was done by some people so they could plow with a wide
> >>>>
> > front
> >
> >>>> in
> >>>> the spring and fall, and then cultivate with a narrow front in the
> >>>>
> > summer.
> >
> >>>> Also, a DC or SC will have steering brakes and most Ds or S's will
not.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Paul Waugh
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:37 PM
> >>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Case D
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, OK, what is the difference between a D and DC?? ..... and then a
S
> >>>> and
> >>>> SC
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul-46555
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Dennis Johnson" <moscowengnr at yahoo.com>
> >>>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:39 PM
> >>>> Subject: [AT] Case D
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> My D is the standard version wide front. Someday AI might try to
learn
> >>>>
> > how
> >
> >>>> to post picture links here, but that might need to wait a bit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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