[AT] agco--- and johnson grass

[carl gogol]

Around here the AC dealer also was a New Holland dealer and the combination 
with Ford gave them tractors that outsold the Agco line about 100 to 1. 
Needless to say tey dropped the Agco which was the same as the Massy and Cat 
challenger versions.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] agco--- and johnson grass


>
>
> JD makes a CVT transmission it is a completely different design and
> supposedly is not as efficient.  I haven't used either so I can't vouch 
> for
> either.
> The AGCO CVT is  a Fendt design and there are upwards of 50,000 of them in
> the fields in the US, South American and Europe.
>
> I agree AGCO should have kept the White name too along with Oliver and AC.
> The only recognizable brand they have kept is Massey Ferguson.  If you go 
> to
> a farm show and look certain models of Challenger, MF and AGCO tractors
> sitting side by side they are exactly the same except for the paint and
> decals.  Seems to me they would get some white, orange and green paint and
> expand on that a bit.  I don't understand what you are saying about New
> Holland.  To my knowledge New Holland tractors came out of the demise of
> Ford tractors and never had anything to do with AGCO.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Edchainsaw at aol.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] agco--- and johnson grass
>
>
>> Johnson grass---   here in  Indiana there  is  a   law that you are not
>> to
>> let it head out  and  must  use  'good' practice in  controling  it...
>> the State of Indiana is the  biggest  offender of this  Law  as  the
>> state's  right of ways  are  getting full of  it  again.
>>    I didn't  think it was  a   kin   to  any  sugar  cane   because its 
>> a
>> rizone  and seed     propagator.    Sugar cane  is a  seed    only 
>> mover.
>>    Johnson grass to me is more  like  the  Burmuda, crab  grass  type.
>>
>>
>> Agco---   I  wandered years ago  why   Agco  dumped the  White colors 
>> and
>> kept the   orange--    I  have known several  AC dealers   that   never
>> survived  the       Deutz  Days   with  out going  to the  NEW HOLLAND
>> tractors...     and  NOW  the remaining   2   are  pushing  Versitles
>> Not  NH's
>> ....     And  from  experience  butting heads  with  AGCO execs   they
>> are
>> NEVER  NOT   right  and  THEY MAKE    "   BY FAR A BETTER  TRACTOR THAN
>> ANYONE ELSE"      the guy that  told  me  this  didn't know  that  JD 
>> also
>> had
>> a    CVT transmition available  on any tractor--  and try to tell   me 
>> my
>> 455jd mower was   MTD built...
>> needless to say he   LOST  total  credability.
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