[AT] Melting it all down.(copper is the new gold)

[Herbert Metz]

Delpending on the state, landowners might want to consider Phil's
observations in making signs for their property; 

                             "Our county judge frowns heavily on
trespassers" 
and;
                "Trespassers hunting can be charged with poaching, and that
may be a state jail felony"



> [Original Message]
> From: Phil Auten <pga2 at hot1.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 7/18/2008 8:20:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Melting it all down.(copper is the new gold)
>
> Charlie and Rob,
> Around here, folks like y'all and Farmer 
> described get a visit from the Sherriff.
> I don't know about the Carolinas or Indiana, but 
> the fine for simple trespassing
> in Texas STARTS at $500 and goes up from there. Our county judge frowns
> heavily on trespassers!  Rarely does one get off with the minimum.
> If the trespassing involves hunting, the game warden gets a call and he
has
> more power in Texas than any other law 
> enforcement officer. On top of trespassing,
> violators can be charged with poaching, and that is a state jail felony.
> Sounds like y'all need to speak to your 
> trespassers with the Sherriff by your side.
>
> My 2¢,
> Phil
>
>
> At 06:35 PM 7/18/2008, you wrote:
> >Rob one thing that folks don't understand is that there is danger in
being
> >on someones farm.  There are laws that require a farmer to post a sign if
> >there is dangerous poison on a crop or on the land but it ONLY applies if
> >hired labor is required to be in the area.  If no work is scheduled
there is
> >no requirement to post any warning and a bunch of reasons not to.
> >Therefore, someone could wander into your field and come out dead and it
> >would be their fault.
> >
> >Years ago we logged out the woodline that boarders the fields.  There
were a
> >lot of nice old oak trees along the edge and I hated to cut them but they
> >were in the way of equipment and they were sucking up tons of water so we
> >had them cut.  There were lots of big limbs and tops left behind.  I put
the
> >word out in the neighborhood that anyone who wanted the wood for firewood
> >was welcome to it.  They got it alright.  Every stick of it that was
easy to
> >cut up.  They left everything they didn't want, not where they found it
in
> >the woods but in the field where it was easier for them to run their
saws.
> >They also left their trash.  I don't mean the drink bottles and candy
> >wrappers for the snacks the consumed while working.  I mean their trash
from
> >home. Bags of it.  Oh yeah they left the drink bottles and candy wrappers
> >too.  I won't do that again.
> >
> >Our farm is long and narrow and it had a road all the way down it along
the
> >woods and a road out to the highway at both ends and one in the middle.
> >Soon after the wood experience I told the tenant farmer to cut up all the
> >roads and tend the land all the way to the woodline.  Most of the time I
> >can't even get in the back of the field myself now without 4wd and that
is
> >just fine with me.
> >
> >Charlie
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rob Wilson" <rowilson at wildblue.net>
> >To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: [AT] Melting it all down.(copper is the new gold)
> >
> >
> > > Back on the farm we lived on that my father in law owns he had a
rather
> > > odd
> > > thing happen. He stopped by and found a whole group of boy scouts set
up
> > > camp. He asked the leader what they were doing and he said they were
> > > having
> > > a weekend camp out. He asked him who owned the place and the guy says
he
> > > didn't know. My father in law told him he did and to pack them up and
get
> > > moving. The guy was ticked since he didn't understand what the problem
> > > was.
> > > It's like that everywhere anymore. No one respects anyone's property
or
> > > rights. My neighbor and his son were flying his son's new remote
control
> > > airplane in this nice green field and enjoying the day. The farmer
across
> > > the road comes over and asks the same as my father in law does about
who
> > > owns the place. My neighbor actually thought no one did. The farmer
said
> > > unless he wants pay for the wheat he's stomping on they better leave.
The
> > > neighbor too was irritated but left.
> > > Rob
>
>
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