[AT] Melting it all down.(copper is the new gold)

[Dean Van Peursem]

Charlie,

I'm thinking about it. I'm a little stunned by your assertion that anyone on
this list would remove something from somebody's else property w/o paying for it
or without permission based on them stating that they found it in an old barn or
along a remote fence line. That is a pretty large leap. I'm pretty sure I have
used those exact words a few times. I'm sure I have misunderstood the intent of
your statement.  I have observed rusty iron from neighboring property that I was
on by invitation, found stuff while walking around with the owner, seen from
airplanes, from word of mouth from those who had been on the property legally,
etc, etc and if it was something I wanted/needed, I tried to purchase it from
the owner, sometimes successfully or it stayed there. And when I was later asked
where it came from my response may have been: I found it in a old barn, or in a
remote fence line, etc. etc.  Maybe we have to be careful with our words and
pair "found and purchased" together. 

Now my suspicion is that what you were really referring to is the stuff that
disappears due to "midnight rusty iron salvage".  Reminds me of a little
incident I was involved in more than 40 years ago in SO CA. We had purchased a
home in Santa Ana and the back yard (not very big) was covered with Pea Gravel.
The Pea Gravel attracted every possible bug you could imagine and we were
constantly trying to keep the critters (such as earwigs) from coming into the
house. So not having any money to do anything else, I bagged the pea gravel in
large HD surplus paper bags and set it out on the driveway facing the street.
Then put a big hand lettered sign on it "FREE Pea Gravel" Not a single one of
those bags disappeared. So later I changed the sign to $10.00 a bag. Only took
two nights and they all disappeared. :-)


Dean Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA

If we take the time to count our blessings we don't have time to complain.





-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:37 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Melting it all down.(copper is the new gold)

I had my scanner turned on yesterday.  A lady called the Sheriffs dept to 
report her car stolen from a garage that was supposed to be working on it. 
A few minutes later the dispatcher called the deputy again and said she just 
got an anonymous call from another woman that said "that car has already 
been crushed" and hung up.

Of course any of you guys that own land know that anything on it that hasn't 
been moved in the past week is free for the taking .... right?  Just the 
same as any thing the metal detector guys find on your place.  They take 
anything they want and leave their trash, car tires, limbs and leaves and 
get mad if you say anything about it.

I'm on my soap box now and this is a good time to say this when I'm not 
talking about anything that anyone on the list has posted.  Every now and 
then I hear folks on this list and other places talk about the good things 
they find in old barns and in fence rows in the back of fields.  I've got 
news for you fellows.  It doesn't matter if the stuff has been there for 100 
years if it's out of sight from the highway and you see it and know about it 
you have been tresspassing unless you asked permission to go onto the land 
and if you take any of it you are stealing.  Just something to think about.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Holcombe" <Dlholcombe at una.edu>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Melting it all down.(copper is the new gold)


> Same thing is happening here in Alabama
>
> There are guys riding around in trucks with cutting torches and pulling
> trailers. They spot an old combine head or 4 row cultivator,  an old car
> with a tree growing through it. They talk to grandma or grandpa and 
> convince
> them that they are trying to make a little extra money and end up giving 
> $25
> for scrap iron that will bring $250.
>
> My cousin manages a small shopping center about 10 miles out of town. One
> of the building has a 2 bay auto repair shop in it. He was showing it to a
> potential
> renter. When he turned to lights on, NO LIGHTS. Every piece of copper wire
> had be pulled from every plug-in and every light fixture.
> One of my neighbors had his copper pipe from the LP tank to his house
> stolen.
> A construction company was doing some work at the local papermill. They 
> had
> a
> lighted fenced-in, locked area. Workers noticed a pallet of copper wire
> missing,
> reported it missing, then realized a couple of days later that the thieves
> made off with
> the wire in one of the company trucks.
>
> One of my friends helps his Uncle who owns a scrap yard here in town.
> One Saturday in June from 8 until noon (4 hours)they paid out over $30,000
> for
> scrap metal, anything from Aluminum cans, radiators, copper wire, to car
> bodies.
>
> You know that old scrap pile that every farm has where nobody can see it
> from the
> road. When my dad bought this place in 1955 he tore down old barb wire
> fences that
> had probably already been here for 20 years. We used our front  end loader
> to scoop
> up that pile of rust and I do mean rust. It brought  over $200.
>
>
> David Holcombe in NW AL
>
>
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