[AT] The disappearing past

Sun Feb 24 08:13:04 PST 2008

You are Welcome, I enjoyed the trip. I was there as a consultant for the 
upgrade of the powerhouse that sat across the road from the main campus and 
the steam was piped underground to all the buildings, we had a change to 
ride around on a couple atv's for most of a day tto look the place over. 
They have a couple Farmall M's, a couple AC's, all parked inside the barns 
with the other equipment, all in very good condition, all ran  but had not 
been used to farm in the pass 10 yrs. The loacl FFA worked the farm an would 
bring in their equipment in to do the job so some really nice farm equipment 
was just setting.

I would love to go back up there some day to see what they have done . My 
Father did the same, he was going to send me to the IN State home north of 
Ft Wayne IN where I was raised, we had about 280 ac south of town and raised 
beef cows, ha yes the old days

Jerry NW Ohio

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] The disappearing past

>
> Typically, downstate NY gets a lot more state $$ than upstate. The new 
> governor promises to change that, but I am sure the tail(New York City 
> area) will continue to wag the dog (New York State). The main complex at 
> Industry  is currently well kept it think.  I haven't really paid much 
> attention lately.  As one drives past, the prison fence is the big eye 
> catcher.  I am thinking I was incorrect on my earlier land size.  Up until 
> a year or so ago the state Board of Co operative  Educational Services 
> (BOCES) ran a horse farm called the Harris Green Campus that was probably 
> a good mile from the State School, but on leased state school land. 
> Looking at the distance, I am now thinking the Industry complex was 600 
> acres or more.  Harris Green was closed because NYS decided to no longer 
> supply water to that facility.  I believe it has now moved elsewhere with 
> reduced size.  In the day, the various farm houses were as you describe. 
> Very large to house the boys, and well kept.
>
> Thanks for the reply and the opportunity it gave to restate the land size. 
> As you can see, I am an observer rather than an expert. I know that every 
> time I was being myself when I was a kid and getting my parents angry, my 
> Father would threaten me with a life at Industry State School.
>
> Charlie
>
>> From: jerry38 at alltel.net
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:06:06 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [AT] The disappearing past
>>
>> Charlie, last year I was up north of NYC on rte 22 near Dover Plains, I
>> think that was the name, and we visited a old "county home", a well kelp
>> place, a few of the many building ( all 3 story tall ) were is very good
>> condition, the local gov used several, the state had a few and the feds 
>> used
>> a few. They had a 180 ac farm also. It was a really nice looking place.
>>
>> Jerry NW Ohio
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] The disappearing past
>>
>>
>>
>> As a boy, we lived in NYS about five miles from a state school for boys 
>> that
>> was an Ag. set up.  It was a large complex and consisted of several farm
>> operations on the campus.  I recall hearing of the pig farm, the dairy 
>> farm,
>> etc. I do not know the land amount, but I have no doubt it was 150 to 200
>> acres with several complexes of houses and barns.  The incarcerated youth
>> worked these farms and produced all of the food for the facility and
>> probably more along with being schooled part of the day. A group of boys
>> would be assigned to live in a house at each farm.  There was also 
>> another
>> large confinement building which housed many boys who may have had 
>> problems
>> which would preclude them from living on one of the farms. Bad boys from
>> statewide were brought to this facility.  The operation provided a good
>> number of jobs for area residents.  It was believed that being close to
>> animals and farming gave many aimless youth a sense of self worth.
>>
>> Sometime probably around 1970 it was decided or ruled that this was 
>> forced
>> labor and must cease.  The farms were closed down and in time the 
>> buildings
>> pretty much went to ruin. The main complex still operates as a state 
>> school
>> and houses many youth. Some 8 or 10 years ago, a prison type fence with
>> razor wire top was installed around the complex, due to the violent 
>> nature
>> of some of the inmates.
>>
>> Yes, things have changed.
>>
>> Charlie in WNY
>>
>> > From: jthall at worldnet.att.net
>> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:54:35 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] The disappearing past
>> >
>> >  The "County Farm" here was a short term prison work farm. More or less
>> > they
>> > babysat the drunks and vagrants. Dad remembers a time the farm 
>> > operators
>> > came into the IH dealership he worked at to get parts. The dealer had
>> > recently traded for an extremely rough Super A. The guy that ran the 
>> > farm
>> > promptly made a deal for it as it was apparently better than what they
>> > had--surprising to me they had the money to buy it without going 
>> > through a
>> > bunch of red tape.
>> >
>> >  The same farm had one old guy who had no where else to go. Everytime 
>> > he
>> > completed his sentence he would tell them not to give his horse 
>> > away--he'd
>> > be back first of the week.
>> >
>> >  They tore it down in the early 70's to build a hospital.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Francis Robinson" <robinson at svs.net>
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:57 AM
>> > Subject: [AT] The disappearing past
>> >
>> >
>> > > The mention of the tearing down of the sugar beet plant reminded me 
>> > > of
>> > > an
>> > > article in the local paper this week announcing that the local 
>> > > "County
>> > > Farm" main structure will feel the wrecking ball this year. It used 
>> > > to
>> > > be
>> > > referred to as the "Poor farm". It is one of my old tractor memories
>> > > from
>> > > my youth. >
>> >
>> > Francis Robinson
>> > > Central Indiana, USA
>> > > Robinson at svs.net
>> >
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