[AT] anti-freeze

Bob McNitt nysports at frontiernet.net
Tue Dec 23 18:39:16 PST 2008


Mike -

We had an icehouse when I was a kid. It was built into the side of a hill 
near the barn, and lots of sawdust insulated the big bricks of ice. Amazing 
how long they'd last before they finally melted.

Bob in Upstate NY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <msm10301 at juno.com>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] anti-freeze


> That's very interesting that the ice would remain through the summer, I 
> would have never imagined it would last that long. How was the ice storage 
> building constructed? Was it partially underground? Mike M
>
> -- Larry Goss <rlgoss at insightbb.com> wrote:
> That's one of the things about an irrigation ditch that I never 
> understood.  The reservoir lakes themselves would be frozen deep enough to 
> be cutting ice from six inches thick, but the supply ditch would still be 
> running clear.  I have no explanation for it other than the water just ran 
> too fast to freeze.
>
> My grandfather and the hired man worked for weeks to fill the ice house 
> with blocks of ice cut with the ice saw from the lake and carried on a 
> horse-drawn sled that was built like a two-horse farm wagon but with four 
> runners instead of wheels.  The ice was packed with sawdust for insulation 
> and it would last until August every summer.  The farm "modernized" around 
> WWII and they stopped filling the ice house after that time, but I 
> remember visitiing on the farm in July and having homemade ice cream using 
> the end of the ice that had been stored for months.
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 14:47
> Subject: Re: [AT] anti-freeze
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>
>> Larry, you can ask Ralph but I suspect you won't get much water
>> out of the
>> ditch up his way!  grins.
>>
>> charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 2:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] anti-freeze
>>
>>
>> > Humm.  This thread mentions an interesting concept -- 
>> anti-freeze in a
>> > Johnny-Popper.  My uncle and my grandfather had around 2
>> dozen of them on
>> > the dairy farm and never put anti-freeze in any of them.
>> It was a lot
>> > cheaper to drain the radiator and the block every night and
>> fill it with a
>> > bucket of  water from the irrigation ditch every morning.
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
>> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:22
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] anti-freeze
>> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:07 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Ralph Goff CLOSE THE DOOR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > John my dad used to tell me about not being able to get
>> anti-
>> >> freeze during
>> >> > WW II and folks putting kerosene in the cooling system.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Charllie, my Dad also talked of using either diesel fuel or
>> >> kerosene as
>> >> anti-freeze in his John Deere D way back in the fifties. I don't
>> >> know if he
>> >> couldn't afford anti-freeze or if it wasn't available. It would
>> >> have cost a
>> >> fair bit to fill up that big cooling system on the D so maybe he
>> >> was trying
>> >> to avoid the cost. He did comment on at least one occasion when
>> >> the
>> >> "anti-freeze" (kerosene) got so thick in the radiator that it
>> >> stopped
>> >> circulating and actually overheated the engine.
>> >> This would likely have been in the early fifties before
>> >> electricity came to
>> >> the rural areas so block heaters were not an option. No battery
>> >> chargers
>> >> either so when the batteries wouldn't crank anymore it was time
>> >> to grab that
>> >> big cast iron flywheel and try to start the tractor. I sometimes
>> >> wonder how
>> >> they survived those winters. We have it pretty easy now even
>> >> though we
>> >> complain about the cold.
>> >>
>> >> Ralph in Sask.
>> >>
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