[Farmall] International 460 Utility

Mike Schmudlach mschmudlach at charter.net
Tue Dec 23 18:20:38 PST 2008


Monte,
A word of caution.  The stuff at Farm and Fleet is not the same as the real
Hy-tran.
Case-IH's Hy-tran will actually absorb moisture.  
Mike 

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Subject: Re: [Farmall] International 460 Utility


Charlie V, I understand why you asked about the oil I used. If the computer
doesn't work the first question should be "Is it plugged in!"

I appreciate the information. I used IH "HiTran"(?) purchased from my local
Farm & Fleet farm store. I did work the cylinders in and out once but was
afraid to run the pump any longer with the fluid drained. I will give it
another try when weather is warmer. Maybe we will get a January thaw!

Monte

cvill wrote:
> Understood, Mike.  I was merely throwing out the question to the 
> original post on the long shot that the use of incorrect oil could be 
> the cause of the problem on the 460U rather than contaminated oil.  I 
> surely do not mean to insult the intelligence of the original poster, 
> but stranger things have happened.  One day I had a brain cramp and 
> filled the gas tank on a chain saw with chain oil.  Promptly realized 
> what I had done, dumped the tank and started over.  Whoze poifect??
>
>
>
>
> Mike Sloane wrote:
>   
>> In the case of the Ford N tractors, 90W oil is what they are supposed 
>> to have in the system. I suspect that 1. Ford never expected anyone 
>> to be using the three point hitch in sub-freezing weather and 2. the
system is
>>   based on 1930s technology, when high pressure hydraulics and light 
>> hydraulic oils were not in common use, certainly not for 
>> transmissions and final drives. This was true of IH tractors as well 
>> - the early "Lift All" systems in the H and M used 30W engine oil for 
>> hydraulic fluid, which was better but still pretty stiff in cold weather.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> cvill wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Could we ask what oil was used for the refill.  Incorrect oil such 
>>> as 90W gear oil could cause this same problem.  Case in point:  I have
an
>>> 8N ford with 90W in the gear cases.   The 3 pt. hitch will do just as 
>>> you describe.  The oil just gets too thick to pump.
>>>
>>> Charlie V.
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
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