[AT] Tractor hauler question.

Stephen Offiler soffiler at gmail.com
Tue Aug 26 06:12:25 PDT 2008


Do the diagnostics, Charlie.  I know you've got that scanner.  Friends
don't let friends throw parts at a problem and hope it goes away!

Steve O.

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> Yep and that's probably about when I'll fix it, end of Nov. when I need a
> new inspection sticker.  Actually I don't like having the check engine light
> on and I don't like having a problem with the truck.  I just don't feel like
> throwing parts at it until the problem goes away.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.
>
>
>> Well, I figure my chainsaw and lawnmower and the gas cans that feed
>> them are putting more evaporative emissions into the air than several
>> hundred automobiles, so, yeah, I tend to agree with you about the lack
>> of PRACTICAL ramifications.  If however your state has an emissions
>> inspection program, typically you cannot pass if your Check Engine
>> light is on for ANY reason.  (You already know this, just stating it
>> for the record))
>>
>> Steve O.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:07 PM, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Yes I'm aware that it's a very touchy system Steve.  I looked into it far
>>> enough to realize that whatever is causing mine to set a code is not
>>> really
>>> negatively affecting my truck or the atmosphere for that matter so I
>>> dropped
>>> the ball until I have the time and inclination to dig into it.
>>>
>>> You are right, it has nothing to do with Farmers '83.  Farmer is a smart
>>> man.  If I had been smart I'd have spent the money part of the money I
>>> have
>>> in this 06 on fixing up my 89 and I wouldn't have this problem either.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Charlie, since the advent of OBD-II ('96 for passenger cars, a bit
>>>> later in some states for trucks over 8500lb gross) the evap systems
>>>> have become more and more complex and the leak tolerance tighter and
>>>> tighter.  They rate leakage by the relative size of the opening that
>>>> would cause such a leak.  Used to be .040" but went down to .020" and
>>>> I *THINK* it's all the way down to .010" now.
>>>>
>>>> My point:  it takes very little leakage on the evap system of a modern
>>>> vehicle to set a code.  Some have special codes for a gross leak that
>>>> usually indicates the gas cap - my '03 Ford Focus actually has a
>>>> separate light beside the "check engine" light that is used just for a
>>>> loose gas cap.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this has NOTHING to do with farmer's 83...
>>>>
>>>> Steve O.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, charlie hill
>>>> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> My 06 GMC is setting a code for the evaporative system sensor now.  I
>>>>> haven't gotten around to figuring out what it is yet.  Could be
>>>>> anything
>>>>> from a bad gas cap to the canister to a filter or the sensor it's self.
>>>>> I
>>>>> forgot the # of the code it's setting.  I'll have to re-check it to
>>>>> find
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bo" <mmc at suddenlink.net>
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I`m not mistaken , you probably have a charcol canister located
>>>>>> under
>>>>>> hood on left side ( drivers side )that is supposed to vent the tank .
>>>>>> Most
>>>>>> folks has a tendcy to overfill the tank , damagging the filter which
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> turn causes the vacumn line going to the tank return to suck raw gas
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the engine .
>>>>>> Pull off each line going to canister ( filter ) one at a time and
>>>>>> check
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> see if it has raw gas in it . This usuall works best right after being
>>>>>> driven for 5 or 10 miles .
>>>>>> My two cents worth.
>>>>>> Bo Hinch
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- Richard Fink Sr <nancydick at pennswoods.net> wrote:
>>>>>> If it is 83 with carb. it will have a vent on the tank small hose
>>>>>> comes up and hooks to the frame. Has a small cap like on it. That is
>>>>>> what is on my 83 with duel tanks.
>>>>>> R Fink
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 11:27 AM 8/25/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Farmer, is it a Carb or a throttle body injection? Fuel injection
>>>>>>>often has presurized fuel tanks. If it is a carb, did the truck
>>>>>>>come with a carb originally? I would tink that a carbureted engine
>>>>>>>would use a fuel tank with a vent. Maybe the fuel system has been
>>>>>>>altered since new. Also, make sure that the tank doesn't have a
>>>>>>>vent that is clogged up. The vent may be in the cap or somewhere
>>>>>>>else.> 11. Tractor hauler question. (Francis Robinson)> My old 1983
>>>>>>>Ford F150 farm pickup (carbed 302 with auto/overdrive) that seldom
>>>>>>>is driven more than a few miles at a time except when pulling the
>>>>>>>gypsy wagon (usually hauling my CUB) uses a fair amount of fuel. Of
>>>>>>>course even empty the gypsy wagon is a little like pulling a
>>>>>>>parachute. The thing I noticed today was that it had a substantial
>>>>>>>amount of pressure in the fuel tank when I stopped for gas today
>>>>>>>coming home from Portland. I know that some of the later vehicles do
>>>>>>>that but I thought that it was too old for that. I don't rec!
>>>>>>>all my other 1983 (300-6) F150 ever doing that. I rarely stop for
>>>>>>>gas on trips with it except at starting out for the day so I never
>>>>>>>had occasion to notice it before. I was wondering if all of that
>>>>>>>pressure was maybe pushing too much fuel past the float valve? It
>>>>>>>seemed a lot higher than I had seen on other tanks with pressure
>>>>>>>build-up. Is a high pressure normal on that age and configuration
>>>>>>>or do I need a cap that is vented both directions? I'm!> not used
>>>>>>>to this new fangled stuff... ;-)> farmer> > Francis Robinson>
>>>>>>>Central Indiana USA> robinson46176 at hotmail.com
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