[AT] Satellite Tracking was Warning and apology.

Sat Apr 5 08:18:17 PDT 2008

Herb, that whole thing is strange.  I actually "helped" search for him.  I 
went to the site they had up and spent a couple of hours looking at 
satelitte photos for something that looked like a plane wreck.  I know that 
is wild and remote country, I've flown over it and spent hours looking out 
the plane window at nothing but scrub trees and mountain tops, but it looks 
like they would have found something.

The conspiracy theorist in me sometimes thinks something else is going on 
with Fossett.

charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herbert Metz" <metz-h.b at mindspring.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Satellite Tracking was Warning and apology.

> Several of us had a brief discussion yesterday on the disappearance of
> Steve Fossett (his widow recently pursued his being legally declared 
> dead).
> Herb
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 4/5/2008 9:03:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Satellite Tracking was     Warning and apology.
>>
>> Guys I'm not young, stupid or born in the city.  I played in the swamps,
>> sometimes up to my waste in mud, when I was a child.  What I am is self
>> reliant.  If I can buy a device that can tell folks where I am if
> something
>> happens I've accomplished a lot of things and not necessarily all for
>> myself.  How many times do you hear about rescue workers and volunteers
>> getting killed or hurt while seaching.  How many millions of dollars get
>> spent every year in this country doing searches for folks in remote
> places
>> (no matter if they belong there or not).
>>
>> Using a device like this can pin point the search and cut it down from
> days,
>> multiple professional and volunteer searchers and hundreds of thousands
> of
>> dollars to a few hours by a few well trained people.
>>
>> Henry no one said the $8 insurance would pay for injuries.  It covers the
>> cost of a helicopter and crew to get you out of what ever trouble you got
>> yourself into.  There are places in this country where a cup of coffee
> costs
>> $8.
>>
>> I don't care if you guys buy it or not and honestly I don't care what you
>> think of it. I posted the information for the benefit of those it might
>> help.  Some of us are in remote areas, alone out of necessity.  Think of
> a
>> middle aged farmer who is maybe diabetic or has heart disease and tends
>> several thousand acres of land.  Think of a Surveyor like Cecil or
>> commercial fishermen.  It goes on and on.  Similar devices have been
>> available for years.  They are called EPIRBS but they cost thousands of
>> dollars.   This device including the purchase, the yearly fee and the
>> insurance is only $300.00.  It's a hell of a deal.
>> Buy it if you need it.  If you don't then stop running down people that
>> might need it.
>>
>> By the way Henry, if you read the fine print as you told us to do, the
>> insurance is something like $150 unless you buy it with the device.  Then
>> it's only $7.95.  That kind of makes the device free doesn't it.
>>
>> OH by the way Henry.  You might plan your life around your neighbors
> holding
>> benefits to bail you out.  I don't live that way.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Satellite Tracking was Warning and apology.
>>
>>
>> > On Friday 04 April 2008 12:41:04 Cecil Bearden wrote:
>> >> the url for the equipment site is www.findmespot.com
>> >>
>> >> I think I will order one since I am surveying by myself in remote
>> >> areas.  The $7.95 per year for $100K of rescue expenses is a real
>> >> bargain.  If I spent the extra $49 for the tracking someone could
> figure
>> >> out where I was if I was hurt and could not send the message....
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for posting this whoever started it
>> >>
>> >> This could be a real lifesaver to one of us...
>> >
>> > Could be, and worth thinking about for that reason.  Don't forget that
>> > only
>> > one person in a group needs it.  If you have friends
>> > (children/grandchildren)
>> > going to a remote area borrow it to them just in case.  Anyone in the
>> > group
>> > gets seriously hurt, they push the button and help comes.   Make sure
> they
>> > know that if they push the button and nobody is seriously hurt you will
> be
>> > mad.   Just because you have a device that can get you out isn't an
> excuse
>> > to
>> > either be stupid or not pay attention to your location.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure about the rescue expenses insurance though.   I think you
> are
>> > better off with a more general policy that covers more.   Your 
>> > insurance
>> > agent may already have you covered (or perhaps your medical).   Or
> maybe
>> > not,
>> > it is worth asking.   If you don't have it, the community is likely to
>> > hold a
>> > fund raiser for you should you need it.   Not that I'm against it, just
>> > that
>> > I'm not sure it is the bargin you think it is.   Read the fine print,
> but
>> > I
>> > suspect it only covers search and rescue expenses, so if you brake your
>> > legs
>> > (or have a heart attack) in your pasture it may not cover because you
> are
>> > not
>> > lost - and this is much more likely situation where you would need 
>> > help.
>> > That $7.95/year is no bargin if it only covers situations that you will
>> > never
>> > be in, but it is a bargin if it covers situations that could happen.
>> >
>> > While I'm on the subject I'd like to remind you that if it wasn't for
>> > idiots
>> > going into the back country with no supplies nor survival skills, the
>> > search
>> > and rescue teams would have to pay someone to "get lost" out there so
> they
>> > can practice.    Several don't charge more than expenses (waived if you
>> > can't
>> > pay) just because they need the practice.
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