[AT] Satellite Tracking was Warning and apology.

[Herbert Metz]

Several of us had a brief discussion yesterday on the disappearance of
Steve Fossett (his widow recently pursued his being legally declared dead).
Herb


> [Original Message]
> From: charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 4/5/2008 9:03:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Satellite Tracking was     Warning and apology.
>
> Guys I'm not young, stupid or born in the city.  I played in the swamps, 
> sometimes up to my waste in mud, when I was a child.  What I am is self 
> reliant.  If I can buy a device that can tell folks where I am if
something 
> happens I've accomplished a lot of things and not necessarily all for 
> myself.  How many times do you hear about rescue workers and volunteers 
> getting killed or hurt while seaching.  How many millions of dollars get 
> spent every year in this country doing searches for folks in remote
places 
> (no matter if they belong there or not).
>
> Using a device like this can pin point the search and cut it down from
days, 
> multiple professional and volunteer searchers and hundreds of thousands
of 
> dollars to a few hours by a few well trained people.
>
> Henry no one said the $8 insurance would pay for injuries.  It covers the 
> cost of a helicopter and crew to get you out of what ever trouble you got 
> yourself into.  There are places in this country where a cup of coffee
costs 
> $8.
>
> I don't care if you guys buy it or not and honestly I don't care what you 
> think of it. I posted the information for the benefit of those it might 
> help.  Some of us are in remote areas, alone out of necessity.  Think of
a 
> middle aged farmer who is maybe diabetic or has heart disease and tends 
> several thousand acres of land.  Think of a Surveyor like Cecil or 
> commercial fishermen.  It goes on and on.  Similar devices have been 
> available for years.  They are called EPIRBS but they cost thousands of 
> dollars.   This device including the purchase, the yearly fee and the 
> insurance is only $300.00.  It's a hell of a deal.
> Buy it if you need it.  If you don't then stop running down people that 
> might need it.
>
> By the way Henry, if you read the fine print as you told us to do, the 
> insurance is something like $150 unless you buy it with the device.  Then 
> it's only $7.95.  That kind of makes the device free doesn't it.
>
> OH by the way Henry.  You might plan your life around your neighbors
holding 
> benefits to bail you out.  I don't live that way.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Satellite Tracking was Warning and apology.
>
>
> > On Friday 04 April 2008 12:41:04 Cecil Bearden wrote:
> >> the url for the equipment site is www.findmespot.com
> >>
> >> I think I will order one since I am surveying by myself in remote
> >> areas.  The $7.95 per year for $100K of rescue expenses is a real
> >> bargain.  If I spent the extra $49 for the tracking someone could
figure
> >> out where I was if I was hurt and could not send the message....
> >>
> >> Thanks for posting this whoever started it
> >>
> >> This could be a real lifesaver to one of us...
> >
> > Could be, and worth thinking about for that reason.  Don't forget that 
> > only
> > one person in a group needs it.  If you have friends 
> > (children/grandchildren)
> > going to a remote area borrow it to them just in case.  Anyone in the 
> > group
> > gets seriously hurt, they push the button and help comes.   Make sure
they
> > know that if they push the button and nobody is seriously hurt you will
be
> > mad.   Just because you have a device that can get you out isn't an
excuse 
> > to
> > either be stupid or not pay attention to your location.
> >
> > I'm not sure about the rescue expenses insurance though.   I think you
are
> > better off with a more general policy that covers more.   Your insurance
> > agent may already have you covered (or perhaps your medical).   Or
maybe 
> > not,
> > it is worth asking.   If you don't have it, the community is likely to 
> > hold a
> > fund raiser for you should you need it.   Not that I'm against it, just 
> > that
> > I'm not sure it is the bargin you think it is.   Read the fine print,
but 
> > I
> > suspect it only covers search and rescue expenses, so if you brake your 
> > legs
> > (or have a heart attack) in your pasture it may not cover because you
are 
> > not
> > lost - and this is much more likely situation where you would need help.
> > That $7.95/year is no bargin if it only covers situations that you will 
> > never
> > be in, but it is a bargin if it covers situations that could happen.
> >
> > While I'm on the subject I'd like to remind you that if it wasn't for 
> > idiots
> > going into the back country with no supplies nor survival skills, the 
> > search
> > and rescue teams would have to pay someone to "get lost" out there so
they
> > can practice.    Several don't charge more than expenses (waived if you 
> > can't
> > pay) just because they need the practice.
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