[AT] Diamonds in the rough?

[Cecil Bearden]

Don't assume that 202 MF is just a farm tractor re-labled..   I used one 
of these many years ago to dig a 14 ft deep ditch almost 1/4 mile long 
for a sewer line.  The loader is one of the best made.  The swing motor 
on the backhoe is pretty much standard on most backhoes.  I have one on 
my JD 400, It needs seals about every 5 years.  The draft control on 
that MF 3 point is the best made in my opinion....

Cecil in OKla

Mike Sloane wrote:
> H. L. Staples wrote:
>   
>>  
>> The three point MF backhoe arrangement is not nearly as strong as the Case
>> frame mounted unit.
>>     
> I agree, although the MF backhoe is actually mounted to the loader 
> frame, not the three point. There are two lower arms than come back from 
> the loader frame and two upper arms that are hinged and have very long 
> bolts that secure the two to the four mounting pins on the backhoe. I 
> would say that the MF might be good for maintaining ditches but not any 
> kind of serious digging in hard soil.
>
>   
>> Looks can be deceiving but the Case appears to be the
>> best bet. If the lady turned down $500.00 for the MF, no telling what it
>> would take to make the purchase.
>>     
> Yes, the Case looks a little ratty, but it is almost all there, and is 
> definitely a "construction" machine, not an ag/utility tractor with a 
> backhoe stuck on it. I didn't mention that the tach and whatever gauge 
> was next to it are completely missing, but the smaller gauges are all 
> there - amps, fuel, oil pressure, and coolant temp. The only other thing 
> I noticed was that the steering wheel could be turned almost a full turn 
> before any noticeable effect at the ground. It just looked like 
> everything was a little sloppy - not any one component - tie rod ends, 
> steering knuckles, steering box, etc. The steering box is pretty well 
> buried under the radiator and sheet metal, so I don't think I would want 
> to have to work on it. The steering shaft universal joints, however, 
> were very tight. The owner doesn't know where the key is, so Kirk is 
> going to have to "hot wire" the "ignition" switch. I assume that the 
> key, like most construction tractors, is a Case universal.
>
> Mike
>
>   
>>  
>> lll
>>  
>>  
>> On 9/21/2007 10:13:50 AM, Mike Sloane (mikesloane at verizon.net) wrote: >
>> Yesterday was interesting, if uneventful. > > After a county government
>> meeting, I met my friend Kirk to look at a > tractor. He is recovering from
>> a torn Achilles tendon and limping pretty > badly with a hefty boot/brace,
>> but he > can't sit still. So he is looking > for more old tractors to buy
>> and fix up (note that he buys them, but he > never seems to get around to
>> fixing them). > > The tractor is a Massey Ferguson 202 or 2002 (I am not
>> sure which, and > it isn't > clear from looking at the tractor). This is an
>> early 60s > machine with a somewhat integrated loader and detachable backhoe
>>  The > backhoe is sitting in a field by itself and appears to be whole but
>> not > exactly ready for work. The biggest problem appears to be the crowd >
>> piston whose rod is rusted beyond saving. It also uses what looks like a >
>> huge hydraulic motor for swinging the boom, unlike every other backhoe I >
>> have ever seen that uses two opposed cylinders for swing. That is the > big
>> unknown. On the plus side, there doesn't appear to be much wear and > tear
>> that I could see - nobody used to to break rocks - no cracks, no > welds. It
>> also has a spare large "muck" bucket. > > The tractor had been pushed back
>> into the woods on the other side of the > property and appears to have had a
>> plastic tarp over it until recently. > It has a 4 cyl gas engine, presumably
>> a Continental like the one used on > most similar MF tractors. While the
>> tractor is mostly all there, it is > pretty tired. The tach has about 3500
>> hours on it, but the generator > that had a tach drive has been replaced by
>> a GM alternator some time in > the distant past, so the tractor could have
>> 7000 hours on it for all I > know. The engine does turn easily when I pulled
>> on the fan, and I could > feel compression. The transmission appears to be a
>> three speed with > Hi-Lo and a shutt
>> H. L. Staples
>> McLoud, Oklahoma
>> USA
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