[Farmall] O/T...but serendipity

[farmall36 at vci.net]

James, you better Not use the tiller at all. I think some spring oats or 
cover crop wheat. Sowed in febuary would be a good start, just chisel plow 
it and disc it ahead of time. Then the freezes will pull the seed in, add a 
few # of clover also. That will make some good plow down about June, add 
good  organic matter to the soil.
Lime it sometime this winter before you chisel and disc
I would hold off on any fertilizer untill the seed is up 6"
and go light on the nitrogen and heavy on the potash - potassium. Like 
10/60/60 just about 100# to the acre combined or less your field your 
choice.
Just my opinion, but it has worked for me in the past.

Kevin Mosier

PS/ hear you have an elderly IHC 340 that you may part with ?  If so you can 
email me  about it or send a ph # and I will give you a call.
Take care.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moran" <jrmoraninc at yahoo.com>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] O/T...but serendipity


> Interesting point.  Well...the main reason why there is this preponderance 
> of stones/rocks within the "intended area" is due to that scraping 
> (topsoil removal) activity many years ago.  Now, if you can envision 
> this...the total "front field" is on the order of about 5 acres.  The 
> front 1/3 (or so) and the rear 1/3 (closer to our house and a fairly wide 
> strip that runs along the driveway (maybe 800 feet) supports grass very 
> well with very minor rock outcroppings.  These described portions "border" 
> the "crappy-clay", which is maybe two or so acres in what one might call a 
> "random shape" (not a neat rectangle, if you get me).  So...to return the 
> field to NATURAL would, I guess, command hauling in tons of topsoil and 
> spreading is evenly (undoing the scraping, so to speak).  This would be 
> very costly, time consuming, and (frankly) the idea of profuse wildflower 
> color (and the  new wildlife that would be attracted) really appeals to 
> us.
> To your point(s)...yes, I know that the frost will (annually) heave the 
> rocks about and, in terms of "amount", there is a lot and they vary in 
> size widely.  One concern, I guess, would be that, if I opted to try to 
> bust up and "invigorate" the soil with a 540 PTO rear tiller, the "effect" 
> upon the tiller by the stones would be negative.  Optionally, I could 
> merely disc or chisel plow the surface down a few inches and, then 
> spread/cut in some sort of appropriate mulch material.
> Sure, I would rather NOT spend days out there prying up rocks and dumping 
> them elsewhere.
> We'll see and thanks for your comments (and any more advice/suggestions 
> you and others might offer).
>
> szabelsk at gdls.com wrote: If the intent is to return the field to as 
> natural a state as possible, I
> would not take the time and effort to remove and rocks/stones. They are
> natural. Also, unless you plan to make the rock/stone removal a yearly
> effort, you are still probably going to have rocks/stones every year when
> the frost causes them to surface. But then I don't know how many
> rocks/stones you have to deal with, so this is up to you. Depending on how
> many and what size of rock/stone you are dealing with, you may be able to
> sell them off and use the proceeds to offset other costs.
>
> Carl Szabelski
>
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