[AT] Titan tractor print

Mon Jul 30 18:28:11 PDT 2007

LOL!  Steve.  I must have posted 500 photos on one of those sites you refer 
to.  One of my images is still being used as the welcoming photo on the 
Yahoo homepage.  But I still have the original files and every year I put 
together a CD of all the JPG and PDF files that I've come across or 
generated in the previous 12 months and give it away at shows free to anyone 
who wants a copy of it.  The next "feeding frenzy" is set to occur this 
weekend at Portersville.  Come on by and have a cup of lemonade and a sugar 
cookie -- and maybe a cup of ice cream.  :-)  And I'll give you the latest 
CD.

BTW, Adam told me today that Pete Roman is going to be at Portersville on 
Saturday, that he's bringing his crawler PK with 4-way adjustable blade, and 
that he has something else "up his sleeve".  I told Adam it would do my 
heart good if Pete turns the second transmission back around, enters the 
Slow Race, and takes all comers hands down.

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Titan tractor print

> Ron, Your too late. I can show you at least three sites that are that
> way now.
>
>  One of them started as a free site and the "owner" decided that he
> would be a nice guy and host all the images on his server instead of on
> the free web site. After the archive got to be rather large and had MANY
> other peoples personal pictures on it. He decided that HE owned all the
> pictures and anyone who wanted to see them had to pay dues to get to see
> there own pictures.
>
> Another one is supposedly a free site, HOWEVER if you post ANY pictures
> on it, the site claims ownership and forbids you posting them ANYWHERE
> else online. Oh and if you had saved any informational pictures from the
> site BEFORE this policy went into effect. TOO BAD delete them and don't
> use them anywhere else.
>
> I also know of one picture site that allows you to post pictures YOU
> took yourself. This site then has a publicity outfit that grabs a copy
> of the image and SELLS it. You get NOTHING.
>
> The catch is that the courts have actually upheld crap like that.
>
> RonMyers at wildblue.net wrote:
>> I think I will put all the pictures of everything pertaining to tractors
>> on the Web so I can claim them as mine and then make all of you pay me 
>> for
>> their use.
>> Where does this Wis. Histerical soc. get off with this stuff. That
>> copyright ran out so many year ago that I can't count them up.
>>
>> I see people put their family tree online and caim that no one can use 
>> any
>> part of it boy people sure have a lot Gall.
>> Goto the library of congress site and look up copyright laws.
>>
>> Ron
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Unless the library has tracked down the original copyright holder and in
>>> some manner obtained those rights, these images are most likely now in
>>> the public domain and you can copy them at will.
>>>
>>> But you'd need to do your own research to decide whether you can just
>>> ignore the claims of ownership.  My approach would be to just ignore
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of JParks
>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:11 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Titan tractor print
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> I agree that this is a pretty gray area.  It is gray in so many ways,
>>> whether it is a copy or even the original.  I'm more appalled by
>>> businesses
>>> and individuals patenting pieces of nature. e.g. plants which have been
>>> on
>>> the earth for millions of years.  The next step would be to patent and
>>> protect the elements on the periodic table, requiring us to submit
>>> royalties
>>> to the owners of the patents.  I hope I haven't given anyone any ideas.
>>>
>>> John Parks
>>> Boise, Id
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry D Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Titan tractor print
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've been chewing on the inside of my lips all afternoon and evening
>>> because
>>>> of your email, John.  That is a nice print.  The image reminds me that
>>> I
>>>> have a digitally restored photograph of three Titan's with plows
>>> attached
>>>> and parked in front of the local IH dealership after field testing
>>> them in
>>>> Posey county, Indiana.  The original photo was on the wall of the
>>> dealership
>>>> and the owner loaned it to me to see what I could do with it.  So I
>>> did a
>>>> high-resolution scan of the photo (out of its frame) and then tweaked
>>> the
>>>> image to clean it up, bring back the brightness and contrast, and
>>> print it
>>>> out at a larger size than the original.  I gave him back three or four
>>> good
>>>> prints of it and a copy of the digital photo file.
>>>>
>>>> I do this sort of thing regularly with the thousands of photos that I
>>> have
>>>> custody of through genealogy work.  It really gets interesting when I
>>> see
>>>> claims of ownership like the one that accompanies the Wisconsin
>>> History
>>> file
>>>> that you listed.  I ran into a similar claim of ownership of
>>> historical
>>>> photos in a library in Colorado -- not to be copied or modified, etc,
>>> etc,
>>>> ...  I recognized some of the photos in the library holdings as being
>>>> identical to photos I have in my own collection.  The frustration
>>> level of
>>>> the poor archivist at the library nearly reached the breaking point
>>> when
>>> she
>>>> saw that I had a number of photos that were obviously identical to
>>> their
>>>> holdings and that many of mine were in better condition than theirs.
>>>>
>>>> The bottom line is that libraries and historical societies are going
>>> to
>>> have
>>>> a difficult time trying to uphold their claimed ownership of items
>>> such as
>>>> this while making them accessible to the public at the same time.  The
>>>> philosophy of a great number of these organizations is that of
>>> protectionism
>>>> rather than free access.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Cullom" <jh_cullom at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:16 PM
>>>> Subject: [AT] Titan tractor print
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I finally got around to having this old IH Titan advertizing print
>>> from
>>>>> 1919 professionally mounted
>>>>> so it'll be preserved. I found it rolled up in an old outbuilding on
>>> my
>>>>> late grandfather's farm.
>>>>> Part of it was mouse eaten, but most was in good shape. I know there
>>> was
>>> a
>>>>> Titan on the farm many
>>>>> years ago, so I surmised this poster came with the tractor, or was
>>> an ad
>>>>> they got from the dealer.
>>>>> Here's a shot of it framed -
>>>>> http://oldengine.org/members/jcullom/print.jpg. Here's a writeup on
>>> the
>>>>> print from the Wisconsin Historical Society -
>>>>>
>>> http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=3557&formatNumber=
>>> 9999
>>> 000314.
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> he'd have become a vegan.
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