[AT] Old weathered used-looking tractors

[charlie hill]

Hi Lou,

Yep in your situation you've got (or at least need) to do as the customer 
wishes.  I wouldn't blame you for putting a high dollar paint job on a rag 
with a stuck engine if someone was of a mind to pay you to do it.  It just 
wouldn't be any good to me.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis Spiegelberg" <louis at kellnet.com>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Old weathered used-looking tractors


>I restore tractors for a living.  I look at this way.  It is their tractor,
> they can do with it as they please.  I have customers that just show their
> tractor.  I have ones that work them.
>
> Even with a complete restoration, it is usually cheaper to restore an old
> tractor, than to buy a new one that can do the same amount of work.
>
> Lou
>
> <mailto:Louis at kellnet.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:39 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Old weathered used-looking tractors
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>
> Rob I agree with you completely but I got in trouble for saying it once.
> Someone on this list a long time ago became totally irate with me for
> suggesting that a restored tractor should be capable of and expected to
> work.  He said he wouldn't dare risk damaging his tractor by actually
> working it after all of the time and money he put into it.  He thought I 
> was
>
> crazy for thinking a 50 year old machine should be expected to work.
>
> My 50 year old tractors work for a living and they haven't had the benifit
> of a restoration of any sort ...... yet.
>
> I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Wilson" <rowilson at wildblue.net>
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> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:01 AM
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>>I think in the long run I'd rather see a rusty old tractor with all the
>>mechanicals restored than to see these trailer queens with DuPont
>>restorations. In the Allis world most all the WD series tractors have
>>the  shaft worn out with grooves in it and seals hard as a rock causing
>>the  hydraulic fluid to mix with the transmission fluid. Making the
>>hydraulics  worthless for actual field use. So when the guy restores
>>them if they  don't  split 'em and put in the speedy sleeve and seals
>>you have a nice parade  tractor. Not worth the paint job to me. I like
>>them restored just like  factory and then put right in the field to
>>use. Either at plow days or  everyday use. Hate to say it but the
>>correct police are the ones keeping  these tractors close to what they
>>were built with. 20 more years and no  one
>> will be around to remember a new whatever looked like.
>> Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Easley,
>> Greg
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:35 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Old weathered used-looking tractors
>>
>> Paint is nice, but rust has its own appeal.
>>
>> When I restored the VAC back in '97, I put a very nice (expensive)
>> paint
>> job
>> on the sheet metal.  I hadn't even gotten the decals applied when the
>> first
>> chip was knocked out of the paint.
>>
>> Everything since I've painted in the farm shop for cheap money, or not
>> painted at all, and they all look just fine to me.  Correct police can
>> KMA...
>>
>> Greg
>>
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