[AT] Varmints and farming

Tue Jul 24 10:37:50 PDT 2007

Grant the problem we have here is that we don't have many small varmits 
left.  Well we have plenty of rats and squirrells but rabbits and quail are 
getting scarce.  Foxes are the  main culprit but now we have coyotes too.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grant Brians" <gbrians at hollinet.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: [AT] Varmints and farming

> With all of this talk about coons, coyotes, beavers and such, I had to 
> share
> my perspective on coyotes. I have not been shooting them because I keep
> hoping they will help control the millions of ground squirrels, the excess
> of rabbits and the gophers. But I also have learned that without scaring
> them with flying ammunition, they will eat lots of watermelons.... An
> expensive meal from my perspective as the farmer....
>      Grant Brians
>      Hollister, California
> p.s. I am looking for an Oliver rear end still to repair the broken
> transmission/rear end case on our Super 77. It needs to be close for 
> hauling
> costs to be reasonable.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] mice & coons
>
>
>>I like your style John!  You and my late uncle Howard would have gotten
>> along well.  He loved to shoot dynamite almost as much as he loved to eat
>> and deer hunt.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Grant" <jfgrant at zoomon.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] mice & coons
>>
>>
>>> Dynamite will work if you set
>>>> the charge on top of the beavers as well as the dam. Nope. You put it
>>>> underneath the dam at the base in the water. Concussion kills the
>>>> builders
>>>> and the timber goes sky high. You do want to be back a bit from the
>>>> site.
>>>> I know this for a fact. !!!! What a sight. Use almost a full case.
>>>> Don't
>>>> do anything 1/2 a**.  Never came back!!!!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] mice & coons
>>>
>>>
>>>>I knew a guy (who has since died) who owned vast amounts of timber 
>>>>lands.
>>>> He had terrible problems with beaver dams flooding land and destroying
>>>> timber.  He told me once that he paid a guy with a big track excavator 
>>>> a
>>>> bunch of money to tear out a beaver dam.  By the end of the following
>>>> weekend the beavers had the dam rebuilt.
>>>>
>>>> The only way to stop them is to kill them.  Dynamite will work if you
>>>> set
>>>> the charge on top of the beavers as well as the dam.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "John Grant" <jfgrant at zoomon.net>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] mice & coons
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Don't know Rick. Never had to try it. If we have problems with beavers
>>>>> building dams where they shouldn't and without permits we resort to
>>>>> dynamite. Takes care of the permit process.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Rick Weaver" <Rick_Weaver at hilton.com>
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] mice & coons
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Will this technique work on beavers as well?  If so, I'll have a 
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> passel of other questions...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick Weaver
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
>>>>>> Brueck
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:19 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] mice & coons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll second that technique, indeed I just came in the house from
>>>>>> burying
>>>>>> last night's coon.  I usually just take varmits some distance from
>>>>>> civilization and let the other varmits dismantle them, but with this
>>>>>> potent
>>>>>> poison I thought I'd better not do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Grant
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:40 AM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: [AT] mice & coons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph, try "one step". It's called "one step" cause that's about as
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> they go after consuming the stuff. Get some Yellow fly bait from the
>>>>>> elevator (actually it's blue in color), mix it up with some Coke or
>>>>>> oil
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> tuna fish and set it out in tempting locations. It will however also
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> care of dogs. Cats will regurgitate the mix (usually) Keep up where
>>>>>> kid
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> and small cannot get into it. I use plastic tools to mix and plastic
>>>>>> containers for service. It works WELL!.  JG
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Old vs. New (about TRACTORS!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Greg Hass" <gkhass at avci.net>
>>>>>>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:50 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [AT] Old vs. New (about TRACTORS!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is about something that has been discussed recently....mice 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> old tractors.  It also can relate to new tractors, as we found out
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a party we attended tonight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its bad enough when mice damage the simple few wires on an old
>>>>>>> tractor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but when they attack the intricate wiring in today's computer
>>>>>>> controlled farm equipment it can be devastating. Thats why I spend a
>>>>>>> fair bit of money every year on "blue blocks" of mouse and rat 
>>>>>>> poison
>>>>>>> and keep all my sheds well stocked with it so that when mice move 
>>>>>>> in,
>>>>>>> their first meal is also their last.
>>>>>>> Now if I could just find something as effective for racoons!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph in Sask.
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