[AT] A sad day??

CEE VILL cvee60 at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 9 15:46:15 PDT 2007


Ken,

No way possible you will please all the people all of the time.  In my 
opinion, you have nothing to apologize for.  Your intent is clear, at least 
to most readers.  The best thing probably is to sit back and let these 
little fires burn themselves out.

Enjoy the kid!!

Charlie


>From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] A sad day
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:11:54 -0700
>
>Herbert, George, and other list members.
>       If I came across as a detractor in this conversation, I humbly
>apologize. That has never been my intent or goal.  I have rather
>strong feelings about some of the statements made (both pro and con)
>but I've attempted to maintain a level-headed approach in my
>statements, especially when the viewpoint was different than mine. I
>apologize if this has not been clear.
>I feel that when the discussion turned to an argument it became a
>burden on the list and have attempted to steer away from it since. My
>sincere apologies if my posts have been taken negatively. I'll shut up
>now.
>
>Ken in AZ
>
>On 7/9/07, Herbert Metz <metz-h.b at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > GEORGE
> > You have contributed more of value to this list than most other
> > contributors;   Ken being the only detractor that I readily recognize as
> > being a significant contributor.    I followed this thread for a while,
> > then only read the detractors comments and there was very little of 
>value,
> > plus potshots from a couple guys who show up occasionally and contribute
> > nothing more, plus a post from someone who won't even list their name or
> > address; but I assume they want their post to be considered of value.
> > Don't know who is right or wrong (between you and Ron), probably a 
>little
> > of both.   Probably this discussion should  have been taken off site, 
>which
> > either could have done several posts ago.
> > So, George,do not leave.
> > Herbert Metz, Cumming, GA
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: George Willer <gwill at gwill.net>
> > > To: A.T.I.S <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Date: 7/9/2007 4:05:14 PM
> > > Subject: [AT] A sad day
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, the detractors have won.  I'm strongly considering leaving this
> > site I
> > > have considered home for many years.  It's become obvious that it's no
> > > longer considered appropriate to express a knowledgeable opinion to
> > subjects
> > > that arise that one is familiar with.  Even more egregious is some who
> > > consider themselves experts in fields they know nothing about to be 
>valid
> > > critics.  Especially irksome is one who is at best a mediocre author 
>who
> > > occasionally shows his face here.
> > >
> > > I originally came here many years ago to learn things, which I have.  
>I've
> > > enjoyed my stay here and appreciate Spencer's efforts.  I've learned a 
>lot
> > > about tractors
> > >
> > > Sadly, this site has deteriorated to the point the only reason for
> > remaining
> > > is to maintain contact with those my wife and I enjoy camping with at 
>The
> > > Portland, IN show.  I, along with others don't get any enjoyment from 
>the
> > > constant carping from the few who have nothing better to do.  I have 
>no
> > idea
> > > regarding their motivation but it doesn't really matter.
> > >
> > > OK, Rog, you've won.  Your vendetta has been successful.  :-(
> > >
> > > George Willer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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