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Dean Van Peursem deanvp at att.net
Sun Jul 8 15:58:00 PDT 2007


Guys,

Please, please let it go. There isn't going to be a winner by making someone
a loser. I know what it is like to be on the receiving end of this stuff. It
ran me off. I chose not to participate any more. More list members will
follow if this doesn't stop soon.  This was a very kind and helpful list at
one time. It is my sincere desire, and hopefully others, that this list
return to the civility the list had a few years ago. This kind of stuff
happens way too often on this list of late. Please, take a deep breath and
try to restrain yourself.  We ALL lose when this kind of stuff goes on. 

If for some rational reason it must continue, please do it off list. I
subscribed to this list to learn more about and try to help others relative
to antique tractors. It is really hard to accomplish either at the moment.

Now on an even more personal note: Over the last few weeks things have been
a little out of balance here resulting in me getting my priorities mixed up
a bit and then recently I was made aware of this poignant story.  I would
like to share it with the list:

Click here: A Thousand Marbles <http://llerrah.com/thousandmarbles.htm> 

Hope you find it as refreshing and good "food for thought" as I did.  


Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

"He who makes decisions in haste repents at his leisure."

www.deerelegacy.com

http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of George Willer
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:15 PM
To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
Subject: Re: [AT] discussion group

Carl,

I consider the admonition to "grow up" at the age of 72 to be a sharp stick
in the eye.  A quote regarding what people who know that isn't so isn't IMHO
a political statement, but one that was cleverly worded.  Of course you're
free to think otherwise. 

To make bold statements with the pretense of expertise on any subject should
be subject to audit even though you may not agree.  That's how knowledge is
expanded. 

George Willer (far removed from Walt)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at- 
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Carl Tatlock
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:51 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] discussion group
> 
> New Topic, if you notice the header.   There are a couple guys on this
> list that are probably Walt or are channeling Walt.  Actually, in my 
> opinion, Walt was kinder in his replies until stuck with a stick in 
> the eye by other list  members.
> 
> Two guys on the list  can't seem to fathom the difference  between 
> POLITICS and tractors.  What is so difficult?  And one of them has 
> what my mother used to call "Quite a mouth on him" in referring to 
> other list members who don't agree with him and his ideas.  I would 
> suggest a course in anger management or at the least in human 
> relations.  At the very least, I would suggest that "Choice #2" 
> offered earlier (  "If you think you are right- shut up") be 
> utilized== they can pretend they are right and take the appropriate 
> action.  Of course it is possible that BOTH are "Walt"  ( many of the 
> real Walt responses were original,  and many of whose responses I 
> thought were interesting and worthwhile until he got poked in the eye 
> with a sharp stick) . The defense is often that "I have been on the 
> list longer than you have"-- and the answer is then "You should be more
civil-- and TALK ABOUT TRACTORS_ not dead or LIVE
> presidents."  Grow up.    Carl in Vermont.
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