[Farmall] Finding the Original IHC Tractor Gray

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Yeah,

Nothing is exempt from the ravages of time. And even with today's technology, they have trouble getting paint to match. Paint companies have to come up with "alternate formulas" since so many cars 
will varry from the original formula. From the photos I've seen at the archives, the way they mixed paint back then was about as precise as mixing concrete. With as?many changes were made to the mechanicals of the tractors, it is safe to assume that a similar percentage of changes were made in how paint was mixed and applied. They were always looking for ways to make the tractors cheaper, quicker, and easier to build.?

There are soooo many factors that can affect the color of paint.?Bob Currie has a W-12 that is as about as close to an "NOS" tractor as you can get. I sent him some paint samples to compare to the tractor to try to get close. But there is no way of knowing how much the paint on that tractor may have changed in 60 years. I think about as close as we can get at this point is "dark gray with a hint of blue". The only way you could truly duplicate the paint color would be if you had the exact?recipe, and used all the exact same materials in the same quantities as IH used.?And That is assuming they didn't change the recipe-which they did.
They most likely changed from varnish enamel to synthetic enamel before the?change from gray to red.
It is also assuming that all the materials are still available. 

Todd Markle








-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Schmudlach <mschmudlach at charter.net>
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Finding the Original IHC Tractor Gray



I think this is the guy who tried to scam the archives a few times.
Why would any one think that 60 year old paint would still be the correct
color?
Go to your local hardware store or even your basement and check out a 3 year
old can of paint.
Is it a little seperated etc.....
I have some NOS IH truck paint  that is only 40 years old and I tried to use
it to get a color match.
Never could get it to mix up very well.  Check out how IH filled the paint
cans and tell me the color at the top of the barrel matched the paint in the
bottom of the barrel.
http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=8900&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fsearch%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26keyword1%3DTruck%2Bpaint
  Also remember IH always used a few sources for everything and bought paint
in 55 gallon drums.  I have 3 originals trucks that are all painted Whitecap
White and non of them are the same color. LOL
My 3 cents worth,
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Weber" <jweber77 at charter.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Finding the Original IHC Tractor Gray


> I know a little about this guy, and I think Mike has an opinion (as
> usual :-D ).......
>
> Jim Becker wrote:
>
> >And he thought that was expensive?  Maybe he is working things up for the
> >price for a copy of his formula?
> >
> >Jim Becker        jim.becker at verizon.net
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Justin Weber" <jweber77 at charter.net>
> >To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:10 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Farmall] Finding the Original IHC Tractor Gray
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>The paint he used came from ebay..  Unfortunately I forgot to bid on
> >>them, and the cans went for $9.99/ea...
> >>
> >>Mike Sloane wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>[For the rest of this interesting story, and other good
> >>>McCormick-Deering stuff,  go to
> >>><http://www.mccormick-deering.com/welcome.html>
> >>>Mike]
> >>>
> >>>Finding the Original IHC Tractor Gray
> >>>Told by Kevin Stephenson
> >>>To McCormick-Deering.Com
> >>>A few years ago, I came across an item for sale that caused my pulse
> >>>to quicken and my spine to tingle. Someone had discovered two gallons
> >>>of International Harvester Company Tractor Gray Paint, stock #1063
> >>>and offered them up to the highest bidder on eBay! I thought to
> >>>myself, "My wife is gonna kill me, but I have got to have this
> >>>paint." After all, I have been looking for it for the past thirty
> >>>years.
> >>>
> >>>
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