[AT] OT: Gas story

Mattias Kessén davidbrown950 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 22:37:20 PDT 2007


Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt never
existed? ;-)

Mattias


2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
>
> Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one can explain
> anything else to him.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>
>
> > Ron,
> >
> > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and higher
> > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I type
> > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
> > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.
> >
> > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do you
> > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that kind of
> > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for petrochemicals or
> > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close to
> > 4X that of mercury:
> >
> >
> http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysics_ThermalExpansion.xml
> >
> > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature. Now
> > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but claiming
> > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not be
> > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's bull
> > isn't very open-minded.
> >
> > Ken in AZ
> >
> >
> > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
> >> George,
> >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are stored is
> on
> >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you live in.
> >> North south east or west . this is set by the government regulations.
> so
> >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to guarantee
> >> their
> >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of Bull.
> >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will come
> down
> >> hard on the owners.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of the
> gas
> >> > when
> >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes the
> >> > difference.
> >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured and
> sold
> >> > is
> >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're actually
> >> > getting.
> >> > I
> >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but
> there's
> >> > a
> >> > difference anyway.
> >> >
> >> > George Willer
> >> >
> >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >> >>
> >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the sun
> >> >> alongside
> >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the temperature of
> the
> >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated before it
> go
> >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold same as
> fuel
> >> >> injected cars.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ron
> >> >
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