[AT] If a manifold

Skip Cleveland skipcleveland at bellsouth.net
Mon Jan 29 20:08:58 PST 2007


Back in the 1950s I had a motorcycle called a Powell. It would get hot and 
melt the cylinder head enough to cause it to blow up in the middle. It was 
fast as hell and sounded beautiful but not much good becouse of that one 
issue.
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin" <ironman1962 at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:04 PM
Subject: [AT] If a manifold


we know he hasn't brazed a
manifold.  Visible red shows up just a little over 900 F.  An engine with
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Now i use a combine manifold off a (715/705 dont rember was a 301 engine 
that went on freinds pulling 460)
 on our Farmall M, and one of the end ears were broke but the peice was 
still there. So i got the big idea that i could save $$$ by brazing it.  I 
used lots of Borax mule powder a vice and propane scrappers cutting torch, 
bronze rod 3/16"
Well before I could bolt it on it had to visit the machine shop to cut it 
true again ( wish i new abt that goop or glue)
$80 dollars and i could bolt it on.
I dont see why anyone thats ever done much of anything couldnt braze a 
manifold or any iron object.
Now one that will really make you literaly make ya pull your hair is a 
skillet
Once in awhile i get to an auction, and they was a Wagner Sydney, Ohio 
square skillet in a box of smuge pots that i won bid on.
I throw the skillets in a hot fire to clean out whatever thr PO had used it 
for.
after abt 15 minutes that thing poped like a gunshot. It was the skillet 
poped a crack across the middle 3/4 way and open crack 1/2 inch. If you 
think fixing a manifold is hard for whatever reason, you need to try a 
skillet. thinking about that skillet, im gonna get out a dozen eggs and 
scramble them up in a minute throw in about 1/2 # of cheese and fry up a 
couple pounds of jawmeat, pan of biscuits. and a quart of elderberry jelly 
some goat milk butter. Gettin low on cholestrol :-)
A 3 1/2hp Briggs lawnmower engine will approach 1700f  if ya take off the 
muffler, unhitch the governor fillit with gas and start it up let it run 
wide open for 15 minutes if its still running. Theres a good chance it may 
even be hotter than 1700. and you should know  about aluminum  after pouring 
those toy flywheels, I can melt about 1/2 gallon of aluminum at a time in 
10-15 minutes with a little coal an a vacume cleaner.
So the Briggs has alumnium alloy piston aluminum block, head so why dont it 
melt the head ? If i had a theromometer that register 2000+ i would do it 
now just to see. IF  IF IF>> Is spencer let Walt back on the list ?
I seen where someone was talking about him
Walt was one that told me not to throw the combine manifold away, to fix it.
He was right it worked, just no way around the machine shop.
So I kinda bought it anyways in the long run.
I am mighty proud you can braze cast by yourself.
Dont let others implicate that you
cant do nothing, just do it.
a broken ear to fix is easy, a crystlized rusted through, casting is nothing 
left to braze to. Gotta glue and bake and hope an pray that it wont burn 
that glue up, i seen some type material that is supposed to take the heat 
and turn like toilet bowl material when baked. an may hold if it werent 
right in front of one of the ex ports. At 2000 rpm there is a lot of 
pressure mixed in the heat even on a 123
I gotta get them egg and bacon frying
Wish yall the best with the manifold !

Ironman
Kevin Mosier
270-388-4052
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