[Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"

[soffiler at ct.metrocast.net]

HI PAUL!  Hey, it's been a looonggggg time.  (We've both
been on ATIS since the early 1990's).  Your post illustrates
my point EXACTLY but you've done so in an infinitely more
clever fashion.  Nicely done!!  It's a keeper!

Best regards,
Guy A

----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Paul Bazzetta <bazzetta at execpc.com>
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:12:31 -0600

>Since my first day in he 1990's on ATIS, this tug of war is
>as shop   worn as my Carharts.  For the new guys, here's
>where it's headed.....
>
>Guy A "This is OFF topic!"
>Guy B "It started ON topic"
>Guy A "It's a TRACTOR list!"
>Guy B "You can't take away my free speech!'
>Guy A "You still have it, but you agreed to keep it to
>TRACTORS when   you joined here."
>Guy B "this country was founded on.., (insert the
>gratuitous   reference to any political ideology or
>religion or lack of religion)" Guy A "I won't be baited!"
>Guy B "It's (insert ethnic insult) guys like you who are
>ruining this   country!"
>Guy C "I agree with Guy A"
>Guy D "Guy A is a pinhead!"
>Guys E, F, G, H, I... "I remember when this list used to be
>better." Guy J "I'm gone."
>Lurker K "Now you know why I never speak up."
>Spencer "Stop acting like children"
>Guys E,F,G,H,I... 'Thank you Spencer!"
>Guy A "Guy B started it"
>Guy B "Did not."
>Guy A "Did too!"
>Gay Z "My delete key is wearing out!"
>
>
>You gotta love it!  It's as predictable as (insert your
>favorite   agricultural or weather event )!
>
>
>-Paul
>
>On Dec 27, 2007, at 1:25 PM, James Moran wrote:
>
>> Well, members...there it is.  From now on stay "on topic"
>> and free   speech be damned.
>>
>> soffiler at ct.metrocast.net wrote: JM:
>>
>> Strongly DISAGREE.  Just because it *started* with a very
>> legitimate topic for the Farmall list, does not mean it
>> should continue regardless.  This topic has digressed
>> significantly.  As soon as the political rant shows up,
>> it's time to speak up.  Your points are understood, but
>> unfortunately they're a bit naive.  Since I've been
>> around a fairly wide variety of Internet newsgroups,
>> email lists, and Web-based forums for about 15 years now,
>> I can speak with a certain level of experience under my
>> belt, and my input is this:  topics always, always,
>> ALWAYS digress.  It is as predictable as the rising sun. 
>> When there's nothing else to discuss, the digression can
>> often be benign, and occasionally proactive and
>> interesting.  But anyone who has watched this happen
>> literally hundreds of times in the past has witnessed
>> some human nature at work, and I can assure you that when
>> the topic devolves into politics or religion, it's high
>>time to call it quits.  Just my opinion. 
>> Steve O.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> From: James Moran
>> To: Farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"
>> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:31:15 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>> Steve-
>>> Well, the thread began with tractor owners seeking
>>> solutions to the damage caused by "wildlife" (e.g,
>>> mice). This expanded to concerns over significant and
>>> costly damages from other wildlife (e.g., deer) to crops
>>> and property, plus the dangers associated with highway
>>> mishaps due to human "build out" and lack of adequate
>>> management to control populations. While this is not
>>> necessarily "hard wired" to machinery, based upon the
>>> high level of commentary from members, it MUST be a
>>> shared concern and, IMHO, appropriate for general
>>> discussion and provision of common experiences and
>>>solutions. Jim 
>>>
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